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Captain CreepySalvaged from archive7 May 2006, 15:36
What do you think? Can the US support them all? I think we should scoop them up in bulldozers, load them into cattle cars and take them back to the boarder and then catapult their asses back across the fence. Do you think we owe them anything? How are they able to get government assistance when the legal US citizens can't? :x
tgd_02Salvaged from archive7 May 2006, 15:43
What do you think? Can the US support them all? I think we should scoop them up in bulldozers, load them into cattle cars and take them back to the boarder and then catapult their asses back across the fence. Do you think we owe them anything? How are they able to get government assistance when the legal US citizens can't? :x i wish you were beaten with a bat while having your fingers run over by a car while wild rabid dogs rip off your legs, while a gay male nurse castrates you O yea about your stupid comment, how many illegal mexicans have gone up to your door and asked you for things supposedly "owed"? What legal citizens cant get assistance???? WTF ARE yoU ON ABOUT? please share some of your pot with the rest of us, thank you
andrexoteSalvaged from archive7 May 2006, 17:44
well...at least they are better humans than you....who can work 16 hours per day and sent their money to its childrens on their natal country?? i admire those guys...i had one friend who died on the border...and thats not really nice you know? they just want the best of their families like every person want
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive7 May 2006, 18:18
Oh Boy, Captain Creepy is showing the dark side! Don't say I didn't warn you in "The Welcome Board"! I told you if you weren't too racist that you would do all right and WTF! 40 minutes after becoming a member you post some stupid shithead question like this. You are about to face a demotion to Private Dumb Fuck! Didn't you read any of the recent posts before you joined? People don't want racist viewpoints in this forum. There are posters from all over the world here, many countries, religions and ethnic groups are represented by both members and guests of FILECABI.NET. Is the question about illegal aliens valid? Yes! Is the problem just with Mexico and/or Mexican immigration? No! They are only a part of it. Hispanic people may represent the larger percentage of illegals that are coming into the country, but not all are Mexicans. Do you even know or can you tell the difference between a Mexican and a Colombian or a Peruvian? What if a person from Ecuador or Cuba came across the border, would you be able to say where they were from? What about Belize or Panama? They look and speak a lot like Mexicans! What about the Asian Indian's, Pakastani's, Egyptians and those trying to escape the trouble in the Middle East? How about the Irish and Italians or someone from South Africa. We as a country will never close our doors nor should we. BUT, you are right about doing something about the illegal immigration here. This country was built by immigrants and it is the diversity of the different people that makes this country as great as it is! Immigration should be controlled, with persons getting work visa's and allowed to stay for so many months first, than they must return home for 30 days before they can apply for citizenship here. I believe that Australia has a system (or had one) much like this. (Help me out here, Aussie's) Whatever the solution, you cannot blame the problem on one country
OverlordSalvaged from archive7 May 2006, 19:56
Captain Creepy (or may I call you capt' crunch?) First since I don't think we've met, I'd like to take this moment to introduce you to the enlightened beings that have evolved beyond ideas like "w00t power to the white race and tell those dirty Mexicans to get the fuck back to mexico". Let me introduce you to a new, rather a very old idea: America has always achieved greatness through the newest arriving generation. The reality is after a few generations of living in our fine democracy the motivation and drive in us tends to wane. Yet those people who have immigrated to this country and literally died trying to get here work incredibly hard when they arrive. You, my bulldog-like friend, are simply barking at the gate or you are otherwise upholding another long-entrenched idea of blaming other people for your own problems. This usually focuses on those the most vulnerable and typicaly fits into: women, black, people or immigrants (wherever you live, whomever arrived most recently). Did you lose your job at Wal-mart to someone who showed up for work on time? Are you one of the contractors in America who has been ruined their career of mowing grass because they wouldn't work for $4 per hour? Probobly not. Probobly you're some middle class kid going to college and think you're entitled to the entire world because you're white, american and college educated. In about 10 years you're also going to realize the world is full of entitled arrogant spoiled children and employers don't really want you either. But welcome to our forums, you're about to take a serious thrashing on here if this is really your perspective and I'm going to have a blast watching you wade through it like a blind leper in a minefield tapping your cane trying to figure out which direction to take. The results should be explosive.
Clouds in the SkySalvaged from archive8 May 2006, 18:03
Captain Creepy (or may I call you capt' crunch?) First since I don't think we've met, I'd like to take this moment to introduce you to the enlightened beings that have evolved beyond ideas like "w00t power to the white race and tell those dirty Mexicans to get the fuck back to mexico". Let me introduce you to a new, rather a very old idea: America has always achieved greatness through the newest arriving generation. The reality is after a few generations of living in our fine democracy the motivation and drive in us tends to wane. Yet those people who have immigrated to this country and literally died trying to get here work incredibly hard when they arrive. You, my bulldog-like friend, are simply barking at the gate or you are otherwise upholding another long-entrenched idea of blaming other people for your own problems. This usually focuses on those the most vulnerable and typicaly fits into: women, black, people or immigrants (wherever you live, whomever arrived most recently). Did you lose your job at Wal-mart to someone who showed up for work on time? Are you one of the contractors in America who has been ruined their career of mowing grass because they wouldn't work for $4 per hour? Probobly not. Probobly you're some middle class kid going to college and think you're entitled to the entire world because you're white, american and college educated. In about 10 years you're also going to realize the world is full of entitled arrogant spoiled children and employers don't really want you either. But welcome to our forums, you're about to take a serious thrashing on here if this is really your perspective and I'm going to have a blast watching you wade through it like a blind leper in a minefield tapping your cane trying to figure out which direction to take. The results should be explosive. BEST POST EVER.
Captain CreepySalvaged from archive8 May 2006, 20:44
What part of "Illegal" did everyone not understand? This isn't immigration- it's a gunless invasion. Anyone who climbs over the fence is entering this country illegally. Do they think just because they are standing on US soil that they automatically become citizens with all the rights and benefits that come with citizenship? What a slap in the face to all the immigrants that came before them and earned their citizenship the hard way. Some people who have been here for years are still waiting for the chance to apply for citizenship. What makes these illegals think they can shove their way to the front of the line? You all must have missed the story on the news about the Mexicans who come across the boarder, take out post office boxes and apply for government benefits, get them and take the money back across the boarder. Not to mention the fact that a lot of them are getting free housing &etc. and the money they earn doesn't stay here. It gets sent back to Mexico or wherever. I can understand the need to support ones family but not by sticking your hand in someone elses pocket. Has it occured to anyone that, though they are working the low paying shit jobs now, how long before they start demanding more pay or else. There are a lot of highschool kids that would like to work at Wal-Mart, McDonalds or whatever but they can't even get those shit jobs. Guess who has them? I am a legal US citizen like many of you and I pay taxes. Likewise, my next door neighbors are legal US tax paying citizens. The father had to retire from his job early because he has a degenerative muscle disease and will soon be confined to a wheel chair. His daughter also inherrited it and she is in a wheel chair now. They were not eligible to get any kind of government assistance to help them buy wheel chairs. Those wheel chairs cost $1500.00 each. He is supporting 5 people on a small income because he is not old enough to draw social security. He applied for food stamps and was told that $99.00 would get him $100.00 in food stamps. His medical insurance only covers him. His wife is only covered if the bill runs over $1000.00. Consequently she hasn't seen a doctor in 15 years because they simply cannot afford it but any female illegal immigrant who has a baby here can get all kinds of medical benefits for free. What's wrong with this picture? Here in town some church was recruting Mexican immigrants. Why? Beats me when we have our own poor and homeless. They put them in a nice apartment and found them jobs. When the local news channel interviewed them and asked them how they liked it here they complained that no one spoke Spanish. Well, duh. Why should the whole town have to learn Spanish to accomodate the few? Go ahead and call me a bigot or racist or idiot. I could care less. Maybe you bleeding hearts should do a little more research.
Captain CreepySalvaged from archive8 May 2006, 20:50
well...at least they are better humans than you....who can work 16 hours per day and sent their money to its childrens on their natal country?? i admire those guys...i had one friend who died on the border...and thats not really nice you know? they just want the best of their families like every person want Your friend wasn't the only one who died on the boarder. I know a guy who was down there on duty at the boarder. The women would stand on the other side of the fence trying to distract the soldiers by showing their boobs and playing with themselves and then they would shoot the soldiers. But you never hear about those things. And lots of people work 16 hour days. I had a friend who was working 3 part time jobs, trying to put herself thru college and expecting a baby. When she appliled for food stamps she was told to sell her car. Huh?
Captain CreepySalvaged from archive8 May 2006, 20:59
......O yea about your stupid comment, how many illegal mexicans have gone up to your door and asked you for things supposedly "owed"? ***If you pay taxes then it's coming out of your pocket too. What legal citizens cant get assistance???? ***LOTS of legal US citizens can't get any kind of government assistance. They're poor people who earn too much to get assistance and yet don't make enough to even buy the essentials. please share some of your pot with the rest of us, thank you. ***Sorry. I don't smoke pot. Get it from the Mexicans.
OverlordSalvaged from archive9 May 2006, 14:59
What part of "Illegal" did everyone not understand? This isn't immigration- it's a gunless invasion. LOL they're invading my house with a lawnmower right now!! Anyone who climbs over the fence is entering this country illegally. Do they think just because they are standing on US soil that they automatically become citizens with all the rights and benefits that come with citizenship? What a slap in the face to all the immigrants that came before them and earned their citizenship the hard way. Some people who have been here for years are still waiting for the chance to apply for citizenship. What makes these illegals think they can shove their way to the front of the line? Yeah they should go back to mexico and starve while waiting in lines at the immigration dept. You're a dumbass and if you were over there you'd be the first one over the fence. You all must have missed the story on the news about the Mexicans who come across the boarder, take out post office boxes and apply for government benefits, get them and take the money back across the boarder. Not to mention the fact that a lot of them are getting free housing &etc. and the money they earn doesn't stay here. It gets sent back to Mexico or wherever. Hahah, if our system is that stupid then they deserve the money. I can understand the need to support ones family but not by sticking your hand in someone elses pocket. Has it occured to anyone that, though they are working the low paying shit jobs now, how long before they start demanding more pay or else. There are a lot of highschool kids that would like to work at Wal-Mart, McDonalds or whatever but they can't even get those shit jobs. Guess who has them? Those poor suburban mall brats can't work at Wal-mart to buy their guess jeans because those dirty mexicans are trying to feed their families instead... Go the fuck down there and see what real poverty and starvation looks like and shut the fuck up, thanks. I am a legal US citizen like many of you and I pay taxes. Likewise, my next door neighbors are legal US tax paying citizens. The father had to retire from his job early because he has a degenerative muscle disease and will soon be confined to a wheel chair. His daughter also inherrited it and she is in a wheel chair now. They were not eligible to get any kind of government assistance to help them buy wheel chairs. Those wheel chairs cost $1500.00 each. He is supporting 5 people on a small income because he is not old enough to draw social security. He applied for food stamps and was told that $99.00 would get him $100.00 in food stamps. His medical insurance only covers him. His wife is only covered if the bill runs over $1000.00. Consequently she hasn't seen a doctor in 15 years because they simply cannot afford it but any female illegal immigrant who has a baby here can get all kinds of medical benefits for free. What's wrong with this picture? Here's what's wrong with the picture: The Mexicans are here illegially and do not pay taxes and the system is strained. By legalizing the illegials already here you can tax them and afford social programs, but a "compassionate conservative" crony like yourself can't see it because you're too egotisical trying to become one of those rich people on TV. Vote Democrat, instead. That's the party supporting people who don't have it all. Here in town some church was recruting Mexican immigrants. Why? Beats me when we have our own poor and homeless. They put them in a nice apartment and found them jobs. When the local news channel interviewed them and asked them how they liked it here they complained that no one spoke Spanish. Well, duh. Why should the whole town have to learn Spanish to accomodate the few? I don't know, maybe you'd prefer to teach the illiterate from a poor impovished country how to learn YOUR language. They can't afford to eat so maybe they can take some night classes at the local community college with some student loans... (you really haven't thought this through, you know) Go ahead and call me a bigot or racist or idiot. I could care less. Maybe you bleeding hearts should do a little more research. Bleeding heart liberal here calling you a racist and a bigot. Just because you were born white in a rich country doesn't give your the right to be an asshole unless it gives me the same right to call you an arrogant spoiled kid that needs to trade places with an illiegal alien one day and maybe you'd sing a different tune. Sorry your life was so special until all these needy people showed up after fleeing their country. Grow up.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive9 May 2006, 15:52
What part of "Illegal" did everyone not understand? This isn't immigration- it's a gunless invasion. Anyone who climbs over the fence is entering this country illegally. Do they think just because they are standing on US soil that they automatically become citizens with all the rights and benefits that come with citizenship? What a slap in the face to all the immigrants that came before them and earned their citizenship the hard way. Some people who have been here for years are still waiting for the chance to apply for citizenship. What makes these illegals think they can shove their way to the front of the line? You all must have missed the story on the news about the Mexicans who come across the boarder, take out post office boxes and apply for government benefits, get them and take the money back across the boarder. Not to mention the fact that a lot of them are getting free housing &etc. and the money they earn doesn't stay here. It gets sent back to Mexico or wherever. I can understand the need to support ones family but not by sticking your hand in someone elses pocket. Has it occured to anyone that, though they are working the low paying shit jobs now, how long before they start demanding more pay or else. There are a lot of highschool kids that would like to work at Wal-Mart, McDonalds or whatever but they can't even get those shit jobs. Guess who has them? I am a legal US citizen like many of you and I pay taxes. Likewise, my next door neighbors are legal US tax paying citizens. The father had to retire from his job early because he has a degenerative muscle disease and will soon be confined to a wheel chair. His daughter also inherrited it and she is in a wheel chair now. They were not eligible to get any kind of government assistance to help them buy wheel chairs. Those wheel chairs cost $1500.00 each. He is supporting 5 people on a small income because he is not old enough to draw social security. He applied for food stamps and was told that $99.00 would get him $100.00 in food stamps. His medical insurance only covers him. His wife is only covered if the bill runs over $1000.00. Consequently she hasn't seen a doctor in 15 years because they simply cannot afford it but any female illegal immigrant who has a baby here can get all kinds of medical benefits for free. What's wrong with this picture? Here in town some church was recruting Mexican immigrants. Why? Beats me when we have our own poor and homeless. They put them in a nice apartment and found them jobs. When the local news channel interviewed them and asked them how they liked it here they complained that no one spoke Spanish. Well, duh. Why should the whole town have to learn Spanish to accomodate the few? Go ahead and call me a bigot or racist or idiot. I could care less. Maybe you bleeding hearts should do a little more research. Gunless invasion? of what the supreme white race that would no longer be the majority because of interbreeding and minority numbers rising? you afraid of this boy? And obviously no, the people that come here illegaly do not think what you stated, else they themselves wouldnt be afraid to call the cops, report crimes, etc Ah the iimmigrants that earned their citizenship the hard way, so you dont think that the immigrants now are trying to retain their citizenship knowing that life with it be much better, knowing that being a citizen would shut the mouths of ignorant bigots like you?? Face it asshole, Immigration back in the 1920s when chinese, irish, italian, german immigrants came, im pretty fucking sure it took them a while to get their citizenship, and if they didnt their children did, and thus their children being citizens integrated into white america and the american life, see where we are now, all you have to do is give it time, and if they are immingrants what makes you think that they can shove themselves in line....oxymoron you idiot FREE HOUSING!! WHERE? my balls buddy quit making shit up, i dont think ive seen one immingrant where i live that gets "free housing" even from other hispanics that have been here longer, they charge em for rent. HAHAHA Immigrants demanding! hahahaha In places like mcdonalds and walmart, where they are so anti union, you really think these giant corporations are going to pay them more knowing that if immigrants so much as raise their voice, they are fired and quickly replaced by other immigrants who know better than to try to "demand things" You are a fucking idiot. Normal US ciizens cant get higher wages or better positions if they asked, but your telling me that immigrants will begin to ....riiight Trust me buddy, high school kids arent getting their shit taken away because they can be just as exploited as immigrants and Im pretty sure that some companies would rather higher someone english speaking BOO FUCKING HOO your neighbor got fucked over by the their own governement, nowhere in your long heart breaking story do i see immigrants being the fault of their position, and i have yet to meet an immigrant who gets free medicare, mostly because jobs that offer them are quick to discover that their SS numbers are false and they are fired before they even get a chance to go "and have a free baby" Which BTW means that by them working under false SS numbers they are paying for your stupid ass social security, but no they are taking from your pockets... I doubt the US states are trying to accomodate the foreign speakers, maybe you got helping and acommodating wrong you are indeed a fucking rascist and bigot you bring no good arguments in your stupid post, your just worried that white america will be changed because of these foreigners, whats more I bet you never even given the "immigration problem" a second thought before Bush brought it up and made it a big deal to cover for his fuck ups during the last 6 years of his presidency, call me a bleeding heart, but ill call you a unfeeling asshole who deserves to walk a mile in some of these peoples shoes O and nowhere in your stupid ramblings do you mention a solution to this oh so great plague, but instead you mention stupid, inhumane, unworking methods that Hitler would be proud to hear, stfu, stay in school and keep beating off to Lou Dobbs you conservative prick.
__BLAK__Salvaged from archive10 May 2006, 12:40
i think the U.S should support the mexicans... the U.S. government will gain alot by legalizing them.. if the hispanics are documented and paying taxes what is it actually that the U.S. is losing.. I honestly don't see why people oppose them other than them being racist. Some people say that the crime that some hispanics commit should be a reason alone that they shouldn't be legalized. But by keeping them undocumented they can get away with more crimes since the goverment won't know who they are. You can't stop them from coming. Regardless they are already here. Face it hispancis are part of america and withouth them the economy will get even worse...
Captain CreepySalvaged from archive10 May 2006, 13:29
Okay. I have a soulution to the problem. Why don't you people adopt a family of illegals. Take them into your own home. Feed them, pay for their medical bills and teach them english. That way you get to feel good about helping a family in need and I feel relieved that it's not coming out of the taxpayers pocket.
OverlordSalvaged from archive10 May 2006, 18:22
Okay. I have a soulution to the problem. Why don't you people adopt a family of illegals. Take them into your own home. Feed them, pay for their medical bills and teach them english. That way you get to feel good about helping a family in need and I feel relieved that it's not coming out of the taxpayers pocket. LOL it's not my goal to help you relieve yourself. But what a great post. :x :roll:
That DudeSalvaged from archive10 May 2006, 20:29
Thing is, companies that rely on immigrant labor for its cheapness are not going to want all the illegals legalized - then they'd have to pay minimum wage, which will usually be loads higher than they pay now. I'm foreseeing a bit of a hit on California's agrictultural industry with blanket amnesty.
babygirl1Salvaged from archive10 May 2006, 21:22
Fuck all that! If you are here illegally you should get sent back. No other human being on the face of gods earth can come into this country and prosper. Why the mexicans because they are four steps from the border. Give me a fucking break. Then why do we even have INS in the first place. send all their asses back and put a big ole prison gate at the border. Lets see them climb tha fucker.
babygirl1Salvaged from archive10 May 2006, 21:28
For everyone in support of illegal immagriants coming into this country dont forget 9/11. The haitains off the coast of flofida the africans in the sudan. If we gon open the doors of the country open them up to everybody.
Commando80Salvaged from archive12 May 2006, 20:15
we need the mexicans, without them ... actually our economy would fall a bit because they do the labor such as gardening, grass cutting, pest killing sometimes, and the occasional working at fast food restaurants such as TACO BELL!
Captain CreepySalvaged from archive12 May 2006, 21:23
Baloney. :lol: There's a lot of high school kids that would like to earn money too and a lot of senior citizens are going back to work either because they have to or they're tired of sitting around.
__BLAK__Salvaged from archive12 May 2006, 21:30
Baloney. :lol: There's a lot of high school kids that would like to earn money too and a lot of senior citizens are going back to work either because they have to or they're tired of sitting around. yeah i can really picture a senior citizen picking strawberries or working on house construction
Captain CreepySalvaged from archive12 May 2006, 21:48
yeah i can really picture a senior citizen picking strawberries or working on house construction Here in the Midwest every year the kids are hired to de-tassle corn. They are able to buy their own clothes for school for the following year or put a downpayment on a car or save it for college. I'm sure that not all kids are spoiled brats wanting designer clothes and would probably pick strawberrys too. As for the Senior citizens- employeers are glad to hire them. Maybe not on the actual construction site but they do book-keeping and etc. and employeers would rather hire them because they are more reliable.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive12 May 2006, 23:06
Baloney. :lol: There's a lot of high school kids that would like to earn money too and a lot of senior citizens are going back to work either because they have to or they're tired of sitting around. Obviously you are a little "detached" from our teenage population these days. In MY experience, most teenagers (both of high school and post high school age) do not and will not work at a job for less than $8-10.00 per hour. In the Philadelphia, Pa area a local mini-market chain called "WAWA" has Help Wanted signs in every store. They start at about $8.00/hr and slightly more for the overnight shift. Local fast food joints start employees at around $7.50-$8.00/hr for openers and closers. Landscapers are lucky to find someone to push a lawnmower for $10.00 an hour. Construction laborers start slightly higher. These job positions go unfilled and help wanted adds go unanswered. Youth in this area would rather not work than work in a job that their parents would have died to have at their age 25 years ago. Senior citizens are coming out in the work place again for many reasons. Increased living expenses on a fixed income and boredom are only two of the reasons. Mainly it is because they want to feel useful and don't want to be a burden to their family or society. The primary reason that you see so many seniors working is because they can! People are living longer and staying healthier than they ever did. This means they are active longer and are not curtailed by the problems that their parents or grandparents faced. You stated in a previous post that you are from or live in the mid-west. I spent a lot of my life living in Wyoming where my family still resides. Things are different in the mid-west and western states than they are in the coastal states. I noticed it years ago, there is a different sense of values in that area of the country compared to the rest. For some reason I feel that the youth of today act as if they are owed something from society. Maybe it is the parents fault for trying to give them so much, I don't know, but whatever is causing it, we are paying for it now. Immigrants, no matter where they are from, fill a niche in society. Whether legals or illegals, they work and are willing to work the jobs that most people snub their nose at. We can not get our youth to work these jobs for even close to the wage that the immigrants do. When a farm-worker gets paid $50-60.00/day for a 10-12 hour day, what do you think an American teenager would do hard labor for if he/she won't work at McDonald's or Burger King for $7-8.00/hr? Perhaps $8-10.00/hr? Perhaps more? What would that do to the cost of harvesting produce by the farmer? Add the additional labor cost plus the high fuel rate for transport and who eats the added cost? You and I! The consumer! We will get to a point where we say, I am not paying $1.00/ear for corn or $4.00/lb for tomatoes and they will start to rot because we as consumers can not afford the product. Now the farmer has a field of rotting produce that he can not get rid of and has to lay off all the teenagers who demanded more money and he has to sell the farm because he can no longer pay the mortgage because he has no income. The problem as a whole is one vicious cycle. We need these immigrants that are willing to work for a cheaper rate and we need to take care of them while they are here in this country. They are not taking any jobs from the middle class American, and if you think they are, why don't you (the complainer) try to do the work they do for a while? Then lets hear that person complain about the immigrants. I am in NO WAY a bleeding heart liberal. But I recognize a problem and know the solution is not deportation of any group of immigrants as a whole. Instead we must try to control the flow into the country by securing our borders and only allowing immigration in through an open door policy. One where these people must apply to come here, apply for work visa's and apply for citizenship. Increasing penalties for those who repeatedly attempt to enter illegally or provide the means for illegals to get here. This is a national problem and no way should we shut our doors now or ever. This country was founded by immigrants and they still should be allowed to come in.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive1 Jun 2006, 19:13
Oh my, that was something. I totaly don't agree with supporting illegal immigrants, but you can't just go and take them and round em' up like dogs. That's just inhumane, and not all immigrants are from Mexico, they're from everywhere. But I don't understand why many of them have helath care and I don't, well in America anyway. We shouldn't house criminals, cause they're not immigrants, they're breakign the law. But it's a complicated subject, there are too many things to consider.
Rowend912Salvaged from archive3 Jun 2006, 12:31
Im only 15 so what do I know?....I think that not giving needing legit U.S citizens support, and then turning around and giving the Illegal aliens some support is pretty F'ed up. Also.....if your gonna live in the United States you should learn how to speak our language. (that would be a must.) but at the same time, If you were a father or a mother, and you couldn't support your family. Wouldn't you do NEthing in your power to support them? Wouldn't you break the law if it meant keeping your kids and wife/husband alive? Im sorry if this is a crime, but I DAMN SURE WOULD! I have been fortunate enough to be raised in a well manored home and givin pretty much anything Iv needed. But im not to spoiled and ignorant to see their point of view aswell. Don't hate on the Spanish/Mexican/any other ethnicity just because they got the job you wanted. (and....those Mexicans make some DAMN GOOD food!......not that that had anything to do with this. lol) ......but what do I know?...im only 15 right?
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive3 Jun 2006, 13:00
What do you think? Can the US support them all? I think we should scoop them up in bulldozers, load them into cattle cars and take them back to the boarder and then catapult their asses back across the fence. Do you think we owe them anything? How are they able to get government assistance when the legal US citizens can't? :x i wish you were beaten with a bat while having your fingers run over by a car while wild rabid dogs rip off your legs, while a gay male nurse castrates you O yea about your stupid comment, how many illegal mexicans have gone up to your door and asked you for things supposedly "owed"? What legal citizens cant get assistance???? WTF ARE yoU ON ABOUT? please share some of your pot with the rest of us, thank you Yeah what he said. 8)
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive3 Jun 2006, 13:46
Fuck , Fuck , Fuck im pissed yeah so im drunk so yea im a Illegal Mexican what ya gonna do abt it :D Toss ya a Burrito and a Jalapeno Pepper, kick back and pound a few Coronas wit da Lime followed by a little Two Finger Tequila...........oh yeah, don't forget salt and lemon for a little kicker. Hola Hails, Que Pasa? Coma esta?
That DudeSalvaged from archive5 Jun 2006, 00:08
Fuck , Fuck , Fuck im pissed yeah so im drunk so yea im a Illegal Mexican what ya gonna do abt it :D Boot you over the border. :twisted:
vivalarich19Salvaged from archive6 Jun 2006, 20:40
fuck mexicans, stupid grape picking no good stealing fagits
__BLAK__Salvaged from archive6 Jun 2006, 20:47
fuck mexicans, stupid grape picking no good stealing fagits I hope you GET HIT BY A BUS
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive7 Jun 2006, 02:26
Fuck , Fuck , Fuck im pissed yeah so im drunk so yea im a Illegal Mexican what ya gonna do abt it :D Let you play with my Burrito :twisted: eehhmmmm, ACE? You can give her your Burrito if I can have her TACO! (yummy 8) :P 8) )
tgd_02Salvaged from archive7 Jun 2006, 13:47
fuck mexicans, stupid grape picking no good stealing fagits rofl, wata waste of a first post
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive7 Jun 2006, 14:44
fuck mexicans, stupid grape picking no good stealing fagits rofl, wata waste of a first post Right! I was gonna post a comment on this idiot, but I see you and _BLAK_ have done it for me. I was kind of hoping he/she would just dry up and fade away like old dog shit that was left on your lawn. Besides, I was busy thinking about Hails Taco......... :P :shock: :P
deterassSalvaged from archive8 Jun 2006, 14:48
Boot their asses!
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive8 Jun 2006, 19:30
It's really quite simple. You can paint it with as many colors as you wish and feel oh so bad about the immigrants for coming here from their poverty stricken countrys. The simple fact is they are commiting a felony by coming into this country illegally. If you have problems in your own country that cause the population to flee illegally to another neighboring country then you need to do some work on your home country's government I'd say. Don't break our laws ..which are there for a reason..because your own country's government can't get it's own head out of it's ass(pardon my french). I don't want to hear about trips to Mexico to see the poverty. That is THEIR problem. There are plenty of poverty sticken here that are LEGAL citizens to take care of. If immigrants wish to enter this country and become a citizen they are obligated to do so by the established laws of the United States. If they do not I have ZERO respect for them. They are criminals. They should all be deported IMO. It is not a realistic occurance now because the U.S. government has ignored the problem for so long. There are simply too many to deport all at once now. It would take years and large amounts of resources to deport them all and none of it will/would matter as long as the southern boarder isn't 90-100% secured. If you are here illegally ..you are a criminal. Certainly you may not be a rapist or murderer but you are breaking the immigration laws of the United States. You are criminals period..you are breaking the Law.. and a certain small percentage of these illegal "immigrants" do happen to be violent criminals commiting violent acts agains't legal citizens. Yes yes our own population commits violent crimes every day, but do we need more from people that enter this country illegally. I would like to comment about those marches the illegals and other soft hearted but misguided people had awhile back. Waving the Mexican flag while being here illegally and protesting here...that was like shitting in my house.(pardon my french) That was outrageous to me. Yes there were American flags out there too, but they should have ALL been American flags if they are really wanting to become U.S. citizens. This was a show of disrespect to the very country they covet to be apart of and it offended a great many people not just me. :evil: Bottom line...if you wish to become a U.S. citizen go through the proper channels. Do NOT go walking across the desert or get packed into car trunks like animals risking your life to break the law. Do something for your own government or enter legally and don't tell me you can't attempt it. 11 million+++ people can't make an impact if they just try? We MUST secure our boarders(especially the southern one) with as much effort as possible. All countries have the complete right to secure their own boarders.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 04:42
It's really quite simple. You can paint it with as many colors as you wish and feel oh so bad about the immigrants for coming here from their poverty stricken countrys. The simple fact is they are commiting a felony by coming into this country illegally. If you have problems in your own country that cause the population to flee illegally to another neighboring country then you need to do some work on your home country's government I'd say. Don't break our laws ..which are there for a reason..because your own country's government can't get it's own head out of it's ass(pardon my french). I don't want to hear about trips to Mexico to see the poverty. That is THEIR problem. There are plenty of poverty sticken here that are LEGAL citizens to take care of. If immigrants wish to enter this country and become a citizen they are obligated to do so by the established laws of the United States. If they do not I have ZERO respect for them. They are criminals. They should all be deported IMO. It is not a realistic occurance now because the U.S. government has ignored the problem for so long. There are simply too many to deport all at once now. It would take years and large amounts of resources to deport them all and none of it will/would matter as long as the southern boarder isn't 90-100% secured. If you are here illegally ..you are a criminal. Certainly you may not be a rapist or murderer but you are breaking the immigration laws of the United States. You are criminals period..you are breaking the Law.. and a certain small percentage of these illegal "immigrants" do happen to be violent criminals commiting violent acts agains't legal citizens. Yes yes our own population commits violent crimes every day, but do we need more from people that enter this country illegally. I would like to comment about those marches the illegals and other soft hearted but misguided people had awhile back. Waving the Mexican flag while being here illegally and protesting here...that was like shitting in my house.(pardon my french) That was outrageous to me. Yes there were American flags out there too, but they should have ALL been American flags if they are really wanting to become U.S. citizens. This was a show of disrespect to the very country they covet to be apart of and it offended a great many people not just me. :evil: Bottom line...if you wish to become a U.S. citizen go through the proper channels. Do NOT go walking across the desert or get packed into car trunks like animals risking your life to break the law. Do something for your own government or enter legally and don't tell me you can't attempt it. 11 million+++ people can't make an impact if they just try? We MUST secure our boarders(especially the southern one) with as much effort as possible. All countries have the complete right to secure their own boarders. That was lovely.
AvalonerSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 07:35
Hey evil, do you know who fights your dirty wars hu? Shall i tell you who fights it, its your "illegal" immigrants that fight for the pride of the oh so great america, I saw several videos, how these recruters drive into slums, grabbing the hard backs from there, sadly that most immigrants just can offer that ( I hope i'm not called racist because of this statement, I find it just sad that these poor immigrants got less education and thus can just offer their muscels), then let them sign a contract and send them to army camps, you see without these boys, you and your oh so lovely american citizen must lift up their fat asses and fight their own war. On the other way, maybe you should spend a year or more in mexican, these people in the slums around of mexico city got NOTHING stop bragging around you brat, first see how these people life with nothing and then they see their chance the rich america, where they can trie to spend a better life. Maybe your goverment should give these poor people something from their big cake, then they would stay in theri land, I absolutly understand these people and I think most people would do the same, but you brat without any knowledge of the situation of these poor people just bragging around, inform yourself , then judge.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 13:34
Hey evil, do you know who fights your dirty wars hu? Shall i tell you who fights it, its your "illegal" immigrants that fight for the pride of the oh so great america, I saw several videos, how these recruters drive into slums, grabbing the hard backs from there, sadly that most immigrants just can offer that ( I hope i'm not called racist because of this statement, I find it just sad that these poor immigrants got less education and thus can just offer their muscels), then let them sign a contract and send them to army camps, you see without these boys, you and your oh so lovely american citizen must lift up their fat asses and fight their own war. On the other way, maybe you should spend a year or more in mexican, these people in the slums around of mexico city got NOTHING stop bragging around you brat, first see how these people life with nothing and then they see their chance the rich america, where they can trie to spend a better life. Maybe your goverment should give these poor people something from their big cake, then they would stay in theri land, I absolutly understand these people and I think most people would do the same, but you brat without any knowledge of the situation of these poor people just bragging around, inform yourself , then judge. Goodness gracious. :twisted: You have quite a head on your shoulders don't you. :twisted: :wink: :twisted: Did you read even past the first few lines of my post? :lol: We fight our own wars. Where did you get this horseshite that's pouring out of your mouth? Did you dig it up yourself or find it lying in the Stupid Gutter? We are certainly NOT rounding up illegal aliens for the military. Our military is volunteer. Show me a single factual shread of evidence to support that line of pablem you spouted and I might consider giving you the honor of another negating response by me. :lol: As I said in my post don't tell me about going down there to see it. It's the problem of the Mexican government not the U.S. . How is it that we are responsible for Mexico's poverty? Are we hoarding things from them(besides our boarder)? Are we sanctioning them? Is the Mexican Government even asking for help with it's internal affairs? You want a piece of "our big cake"? THEN GET HERE LEGALLY AND YOU CAN HAVE A DAMN PIECE. You don't get cake for being a "brat" and commiting a felony under the laws of the United States of America(their illegally adopted father). You get "something from our big cake" when you behave and immigrate here legally like so many other legal and honorable immigrants that do so in line. Relating to U.S. aid to Mexico "from our big cake" here is a link (http://mexico.usembassy.gov/mexico/aid.html) for you to look at. To be honest though I believe countries should help themselves as much as possible. Is this not logical? :roll: Mexico isn't a dictatorship and we are not responsible for Mexico's hardships. There are countries all over the world in just as bad of a state economically and many more that are even worse. What makes Mexico special? Because it happens to be located on one of our boarders? I don't think so. Your wrong friend. Your emotional and talk with them as well. Think well before you flame at me. And just for your information I am a little over 3 decades old..can you figure that out? :) :twisted:
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 13:35
That was lovely. Thank you. :D
AvalonerSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 14:20
Your just dumb kid, no matter what you write, youre jsut getting a more spoiled brat with every sentence I must read from you, you didn't fight you dumbshit, ever saw videos or reportages from the iraq war, how many white soldiers you saw hu how many 10 out of 1000 maybe and you say you fight your own wars suuureee, looking at my last post i saw that i wrote illegal, ok no illegal will ever get some kind of govermentcontract the video was about legal immigrants, still they fight for you couse you american brats just can start wars never fight one alone, you know why because you just got this one civil war up with you and no real war, this is the reason why you spread war all over the earth, think about it and get away from "we the americans are the best bla bla". Then maybe their are people who can't get a free legal entrance, and what about them, you force them to live a live, where they must eat from the leftovers from other humans, what about you just think when live choose you to be one of them, living in some kind of slum, do you think they know they can be legal immigrats, with nothing to offer, get no home, no education, goddamm why you got a brain, to fill your skull or to THINK, these people got nothing, why should america let them in legal, do you really think they would do this, no simply because there are people like you who are just fucked up, born to wealthy family or got the fucking luck in your lives, still doesn't give you the right to judge over these people. And don'Ãt give me the shit with "ohh all countys all over the world should help themself" what about the states in Africa or other lands like mexico or Ã©ven whole southamerica, I don't see that much possibilitys to help them, while USA started with a rich land many ressources and after killing thousands and millions of innocent people, and without having one real war up there, you have the luck to be rich, but as long as you are able to help other people you should do it goddamm. But I see I talk to some kind of wall, its stupid to discuss with someone so closed minded like you and I think noone could change you mind. Before you brag about it again like I already mentioned that I made a failure with saying the recruits were illegal, infact they were legal, doesn't change the fact that you are using them to fight your wars. One other thing, its not the matter of the biological age that I call you brat its simply a matter of mind, because yours jsut doesn't seem to be well developed, more like full of patriot shit.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 14:43
Your just dumb kid, no matter what you write, youre jsut getting a more spoiled brat with every sentence I must read from you, you didn't fight you dumbshit, ever saw videos or reportages from the iraq war, how many white soldiers you saw hu how many 10 out of 1000 maybe and you say you fight your own wars suuureee, looking at my last post i saw that i wrote illegal, ok no illegal will ever get some kind of govermentcontract the video was about legal immigrants, still they fight for you couse you american brats just can start wars never fight one alone, you know why because you just got this one civil war up with you and no real war, this is the reason why you spread war all over the earth, think about it and get away from "we the americans are the best bla bla". Then maybe their are people who can't get a free legal entrance, and what about them, you force them to live a live, where they must eat from the leftovers from other humans, what about you just think when live choose you to be one of them, living in some kind of slum, do you think they know they can be legal immigrats, with nothing to offer, get no home, no education, goddamm why you got a brain, to fill your skull or to THINK, these people got nothing, why should america let them in legal, do you really think they would do this, no simply because there are people like you who are just fucked up, born to wealthy family or got the fucking luck in your lives, still doesn't give you the right to judge over these people. And don'Ãt give me the shit with "ohh all countys all over the world should help themself" what about the states in Africa or other lands like mexico or Ã©ven whole southamerica, I don't see that much possibilitys to help them, while USA started with a rich land many ressources and after killing thousands and millions of innocent people, and without having one real war up there, you have the luck to be rich, but as long as you are able to help other people you should do it goddamm. But I see I talk to some kind of wall, its stupid to discuss with someone so closed minded like you and I think noone could change you mind. Before you brag about it again like I already mentioned that I made a failure with saying the recruits were illegal, infact they were legal, doesn't change the fact that you are using them to fight your wars. One other thing, its not the matter of the biological age that I call you brat its simply a matter of mind, because yours jsut doesn't seem to be well developed, more like full of patriot shit. *CLAPS* Well done you have surpassed your original ignorance from your first post. :twisted: Don't mince my words. I never said anything other than there are other countries far worse off than Mexico(your country is it?). We CANNOT wholely support every country in this world even if we are the only remaining super power and have a "big cake" in foreigner's eyes. Besides I thought that was the U.N.'s Job? :P So your saying that legal MEXICAN immigrants are being used to fight our wars. Sir, again I tell you...THE UNITED STATES MILITARY IS A VOLUNTARY SERVICE. I totally respect any legal immigrant that fights for his newly and legally adopted country. Oh wait...they aren't letting any Mexican's legally immigrate according to you how can we have them in our military voluntarily? :? :lol: What millions of innocent people are you talking about the U.S. killing? Give me some facts here I'm having trouble with your logic...oh wait a minute you don't have any logic in that mind. By the way I think people with half a brain reading our posts knows who the most childish one is. :wink: You sir deserve and asked for this childish pic. http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/o/pott2613/WTF/headuasmall.jpg
AvalonerSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 15:01
Seems that you don't even know your own history, sadly, because I mean indians with this statement, but thats ok I knew that you don't know your own history, I guess without war you wouldn't even know that there are other countries then yours. You just don't listen or don't want to hu You know I said these people (immigrants) most time don't got much education and can just offer a a strong back, maybe you know this term means that you are strong and can carry much things, and because of this your recrutiers go into slumps and recruit persons there and you know why these "volunteers" join, because they got no other chance, maybe now you get it, can't describe it more easier even a kid could understand it now. Theeeen I said they wont let illegal immigrants in any kind of goverment contract, maybe you aren't reading anything just keep on bragging around because i already said that I made a failure by calling them illegal instead of legal, but it just seems like normal american argument, got no arguments, so they ride on one failure, just to typical for someone with no arguments at all. Then, maybe yu didn't understood it out of my last post, I was calling the America a Land that had the ressources to do a good start, while others infact got no way to start good in any way. Oh and no I don't need any care from you dumbfuck americans, sorry for this i know that there are many american people not fucked up like this idiot, and even if I needed them I wouldn't take it, a Land ruled by this kidn of leader...ok thats off topic. Ok maybe I should summarize my points, so you can better understand: 1.Using mexican legal immigrants, recruited out of slums, to fight your war, they "volunteer" because their familys need the money, and american army know this. 2. America got a good start as land, was never thorn apart by wars, except this civil, but this wasn't very devastating, ohh maybe to teach you you killed alot of indians as you explored the Lands. 3.I don't need any support of america and never will need any from you.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 15:14
Seems that you don't even know your own history, sadly, because I mean indians with this statement, but thats ok I knew that you don't know your own history, I guess without war you wouldn't even know that there are other countries then yours. You just don't listen or don't want to hu You know I said these people (immigrants) most time don't got much education and can just offer a a strong back, maybe you know this term means that you are strong and can carry much things, and because of this your recrutiers go into slumps and recruit persons there and you know why these "volunteers" join, because they got no other chance, maybe now you get it, can't describe it more easier even a kid could understand it now. Theeeen I said they wont let illegal immigrants in any kind of goverment contract, maybe you aren't reading anything just keep on bragging around because i already said that I made a failure by calling them illegal instead of legal, but it just seems like normal american argument, got no arguments, so they ride on one failure, just to typical for someone with no arguments at all. Then, maybe yu didn't understood it out of my last post, I was calling the America a Land that had the ressources to do a good start, while others infact got no way to start good in any way. Oh and no I don't need any care from you dumbfuck americans, sorry for this i know that there are many american people not fucked up like this idiot, and even if I needed them I wouldn't take it, a Land ruled by this kidn of leader...ok thats off topic. Ok maybe I should summarize my points, so you can better understand: 1.Using mexican legal immigrants, recruited out of slums, to fight your war, they "volunteer" because their familys need the money, and american army know this. 2. America got a good start as land, was never thorn apart by wars, except this civil, but this wasn't very devastating, ohh maybe to teach you you killed alot of indians as you explored the Lands. 3.I don't need any support of america and never will need any from you. 1. You are babbling. Indians? What the Hell are you talking about now? 2. Every country in the world was created through violence or the suppression of another people at one point or another in it's history. Mexico and South America destroyed an entire advanced culture to carve themselves a foothold. 3. I'm glad you take some self responsibility...or do you. Who is supporting you? What country are you from? 4. The U.S. Military is voluntary. We do not force anyone into it due to poverty or otherwise. What any man chooses to do in his/her life is his/her own responsibility. 5. Your bursts of illogic gives me a headache so I'm taking some advil and going out on this beatiful day. So I geuss you can feel free to flame me with your unfounded unsupported mis-facts. 6. Gd'day. Destroy your foundless arguments later.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 16:09
Avaloner.....you are getting in over your head. Back up, regroup, reload (with substantiated facts) then re-post your point. You are trying to say too much at once and are tripping over the language barrier. Which is making you look bad!
OsoSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 17:49
Speaking from a United states born, mexican american...Let me say this. Mexican immigrants usually take the jobs no one else wants. Givin the opprotunity they would pay taxes on the wages they got if it meant they DIDNT have to go back to mexico AND have to pay the wages they rightfully diserve instead of at a quarter of the FAIR price. The propoganda was wrong, first they said mexicans were lazy, then they said (in his best south park voice) they took our jobs, I think they only thing they got right was we are fantastic lovers. Most of my family is already here, and has been here in the united states well over 6 generations. Im going to agree with everyone that flamed u, but leave you with somthing my dad once told me before he died mowing a lawn. Every man has the right to support his family. And since we dont know the meaning of prophylactic device, that number is gonna continue to grow. So long as people want things built, mowed, plumbed, or clogs need to be removed from their shit tanks, we are gonna be here, We're here, we like beer! get used to it.. heh
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 18:58
Speaking from a United states born, mexican american...Let me say this. Mexican immigrants usually take the jobs no one else wants. Givin the opprotunity they would pay taxes on the wages they got if it meant they DIDNT have to go back to mexico AND have to pay the wages they rightfully diserve instead of at a quarter of the FAIR price. The propoganda was wrong, first they said mexicans were lazy, then they said (in his best south park voice) they took our jobs, I think they only thing they got right was we are fantastic lovers. Most of my family is already here, and has been here in the united states well over 6 generations. Im going to agree with everyone that flamed u, but leave you with somthing my dad once told me before he died mowing a lawn. Every man has the right to support his family. And since we dont know the meaning of prophylactic device, that number is gonna continue to grow. So long as people want things built, mowed, plumbed, or clogs need to be removed from their shit tanks, we are gonna be here, We're here, we like beer! get used to it.. heh You miss my points entirely. It isn't about racism or people supporting their families. It's about illegal immigration period. It's about a foreign country's citizens breaking the laws of another country. If Mexican citizens wish to come here and work then they should have to do it under the laws of the U.S. and apply legally for citizenship or a worker's pass. I could give a damn what jobs they do as long as they get here through legal recourses. The same goes for any immigrant from any country. Every country has a right to have secure boarders and set down laws about immigration and immigrants should obey the law(s) period.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 18:59
go kill yourself that way you dont deal with anyone!
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 19:03
go kill yourself that way you dont deal with anyone! Esqueeze me? Baking powder? :lol: :twisted:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 19:04
sure thing, insert into mouth, die, quick!
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 20:00
sure thing, insert into mouth, die, quick! http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/o/pott2613/WTF/shut_f_u.jpg :twisted:
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 20:07
^^^ Calm down dude! have some meat! http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h142/Rocker_Kid/morimot…
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 20:12
^^^ Calm down dude! have some meat! I'm completely calm even after someone tells me to kill myself. :lol: Funny picture btw. 8) :twisted:
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 20:16
^^^ Calm down dude! have some meat! I'm completely calm even after someone tells me to kill myself. :lol: Funny picture btw. 8) :twisted: I thought you'd be spazzing out because only a spaz would put out three pics at once. Thank you for the pic complement.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 20:32
I thought you'd be spazzing out because only a spaz would put out three pics at once. Thank you for the pic complement. That's a single picture if your talking about Jesus, Alf, and Arny.
That DudeSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 22:21
Don't mind Tgd. He has PMS 25/8. :)
andrexoteSalvaged from archive10 Jun 2006, 22:41
yo no entender, burrito?
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 00:24
Don't mind Tgd. He has PMS 25/8. :) :shock: :lol:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 02:06
that dude pissed about his own period sigh* pityful thing,(and i attack everyone huh) and really conservative do us all a favor and drop dead, that way you go to "white heaven" and wont deal with any spicks! gay pics btw
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 02:18
Speaking from a United states born, mexican american...Let me say this. Mexican immigrants usually take the jobs no one else wants. Givin the opprotunity they would pay taxes on the wages they got if it meant they DIDNT have to go back to mexico AND have to pay the wages they rightfully diserve instead of at a quarter of the FAIR price. The propoganda was wrong, first they said mexicans were lazy, then they said (in his best south park voice) they took our jobs, I think they only thing they got right was we are fantastic lovers. Most of my family is already here, and has been here in the united states well over 6 generations. Im going to agree with everyone that flamed u, but leave you with somthing my dad once told me before he died mowing a lawn. Every man has the right to support his family. And since we dont know the meaning of prophylactic device, that number is gonna continue to grow. So long as people want things built, mowed, plumbed, or clogs need to be removed from their shit tanks, we are gonna be here, We're here, we like beer! get used to it.. heh Sure every man has the right to support his family within reason. If you choose to break the law to support your family then you better be ready to face the consequence. I mean why should legal citizens have to pay for the pleasure of you (not personally you, but anyone) doing whatever you want to feed your family. If you jump the border despite the reason you are commiting a crime and that's all there is to it, a felony at that.
OsoSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 02:49
Speaking from a United states born, mexican american...Let me say this. Mexican immigrants usually take the jobs no one else wants. Givin the opprotunity they would pay taxes on the wages they got if it meant they DIDNT have to go back to mexico AND have to pay the wages they rightfully diserve instead of at a quarter of the FAIR price. The propoganda was wrong, first they said mexicans were lazy, then they said (in his best south park voice) they took our jobs, I think they only thing they got right was we are fantastic lovers. Most of my family is already here, and has been here in the united states well over 6 generations. Im going to agree with everyone that flamed u, but leave you with somthing my dad once told me before he died mowing a lawn. Every man has the right to support his family. And since we dont know the meaning of prophylactic device, that number is gonna continue to grow. So long as people want things built, mowed, plumbed, or clogs need to be removed from their shit tanks, we are gonna be here, We're here, we like beer! get used to it.. heh Sure every man has the right to support his family within reason. If you choose to break the law to support your family then you better be ready to face the consequence. I mean why should legal citizens have to pay for the pleasure of you (not personally you, but anyone) doing whatever you want to feed your family. If you jump the border despite the reason you are commiting a crime and that's all there is to it, a felony at that. I see your point about breaking the law. But lets get real here, we're not talking armed robbery. We are talking about crossing over an invisable line, to seek job opprotunities. They just dont exhist in their own country. They consume just like anyone else and pay taxes just like anyone else, but arent eligigable for the same civil services like welfare unless they are a US citizen. The only people that are eligable are their children who are born here. They get those services. The problem isnt the people coming here illeagally. The problem is the governement hasnt figured out a way to profit from their misfortune. I gurantee you that if they could tax the untaxable, you would see a dramatic increase in the united states net revenues. and people wouldnt be all pissy about this whole situation. Lets get real here for a moment. We are talking numbers, everyone believes that more immigrants mean more stuff they shouldnt have to pay for because they dont pay taxes. I say figure out a way to make'em pay taxes instead of trying to make the wall bigger. the only thing thats gonna do is just figure out some other way of getting across. That or put jobs in their own countries...
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 02:55
that dude pissed about his own period sigh* pityful thing,(and i attack everyone huh) and really conservative do us all a favor and drop dead, that way you go to "white heaven" and wont deal with any spicks! gay pics btw Do yourself and the general public a big favor and you drop dead friend. You have no intelligent input...at least that I have seen from your most recent posts toward me. You appear to me to be just another annoying obnoxious guy on a message board with an upside down cross for an icon so that you might offend someone and get more attention...or just because you think it's "cool". :twisted: :lol: :roll: :twisted: I'm all of the sudden a racist too.."white heaven"? Please do not favor me with your moronic sputterings. I doubt my words will do any good however. There are people like you all over the internet...those that spout off at the mouth with nothing to back them up. Attention seekers...morons in my book. You started the fire. I'll pour gas on you and throw you into it screaming if you mouth off some more ignorance to me. Satan/Lucifer is a pussy by the way...if that's why you have your little icon. :wink: Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn. Oh yeah..something about your gay pics? I don't care to see them. Keep your porn collection to yourself if you please I'm not a homosexual. :lol: I'm so sorry what was I saying...we didn't get off to a good first meeting did we? :twisted:
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 02:58
Sure every man has the right to support his family within reason. If you choose to break the law to support your family then you better be ready to face the consequence. I mean why should legal citizens have to pay for the pleasure of you (not personally you, but anyone) doing whatever you want to feed your family. If you jump the border despite the reason you are commiting a crime and that's all there is to it, a felony at that. Good intelligent post. :D
OsoSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 02:58
You miss my points entirely. It isn't about racism or people supporting their families. It's about illegal immigration period. It's about a foreign country's citizens breaking the laws of another country. If Mexican citizens wish to come here and work then they should have to do it under the laws of the U.S. and apply legally for citizenship or a worker's pass. I could give a damn what jobs they do as long as they get here through legal recourses. The same goes for any immigrant from any country. Every country has a right to have secure boarders and set down laws about immigration and immigrants should obey the law(s) period. You are right, every country DOES indeed have right to secure boarders, and set laws about immigration and immigrants should obey the laws, period. So why is i dont see the WALLS going up on the alaskan and united states border in Canada? Thats not a secure boarder, and dont give me that crap about no one trying to come accross when they have already stopped more the 3 people crossing the borders with weapons of some kind. The canadian border is NOT a secure border, My aunt lives in MAIN and half her yard is in Canada and half of it is in the US, and we can walk over to the canadian side without a problem. NO military no walls no nuthin. So while the guise of this is "secure borders" you call it whatever you want to Evil Conservitive. Before 9/11 it was entirely too easy to get through the canadian border, and yet we have 4 times the armed security on the mexican border. I have yet to see the fences on canadas border.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 03:39
I see your point about breaking the law. But lets get real here, we're not talking armed robbery. We are talking about crossing over an invisable line, to seek job opprotunities. They just dont exhist in their own country. They consume just like anyone else and pay taxes just like anyone else, but arent eligigable for the same civil services like welfare unless they are a US citizen. The only people that are eligable are their children who are born here. They get those services. The problem isnt the people coming here illeagally. The problem is the governement hasnt figured out a way to profit from their misfortune. I gurantee you that if they could tax the untaxable, you would see a dramatic increase in the united states net revenues. and people wouldnt be all pissy about this whole situation. Lets get real here for a moment. We are talking numbers, everyone believes that more immigrants mean more stuff they shouldnt have to pay for because they dont pay taxes. I say figure out a way to make'em pay taxes instead of trying to make the wall bigger. the only thing thats gonna do is just figure out some other way of getting across. That or put jobs in their own countries... Yes let us "get real here (http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.ht… for a moment and click that link in this sentence. Read it well. I grant you not all illegal immigrants do these types of abhorant things but some do and that some is too damn many. Just one death,rape, or robbery because of an illegal immigrant of any race is unacceptable..and boy is it alot more than one. This is one of the reasons we have laws for immigration. To keep the bad out. EVERY COUNTRY HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE SECURE BOARDERS AND KEEP ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS OUT. Like I said before if there is something wrong with your own country fix it or ask for help to fix it. To other things...taxes. You say they don't get social services? I'm afraid yes alot of them do. This is a well known fact. And the only taxes an illegal pays are sales taxes. They are here illegally and are granted social services, do not pay taxes, and are affectively all felons. This(U.S.A.) government needs to take care of it's boarders and have a fully funtional active INS. Mexico's government needs to take care of it's people and do it's own part on their side of the boarder.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 03:53
You are right, every country DOES indeed have right to secure boarders, and set laws about immigration and immigrants should obey the laws, period. So why is i dont see the WALLS going up on the alaskan and united states border in Canada? Thats not a secure boarder, and dont give me that crap about no one trying to come accross when they have already stopped more the 3 people crossing the borders with weapons of some kind. The canadian border is NOT a secure border, My aunt lives in MAIN and half her yard is in Canada and half of it is in the US, and we can walk over to the canadian side without a problem. NO military no walls no nuthin. So while the guise of this is "secure borders" you call it whatever you want to Evil Conservitive. Before 9/11 it was entirely too easy to get through the canadian border, and yet we have 4 times the armed security on the mexican border. I have yet to see the fences on canadas border. I'm glad we finally agree on something. :wink: The reason the southern boarder is more patrolled and secured...though far far from being enough is simply because we have torrents of people coming in that way every single day. Canadians stay in their country for the most part(thank God for small favors( :lol: just kidding..for most Canadians anyway)). Also the main roads into Canada are fairly secure and there is alot of forestland up there that would have to be traversed on foot to avoid most boarder crossings..that's nothing like the open desert. We do need more security on ALL boarders though this I do agree.
OsoSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 11:29
I'm glad we finally agree on something. :wink: The reason the southern boarder is more patrolled and secured...though far far from being enough is simply because we have torrents of people coming in that way every single day. Canadians stay in their country for the most part(thank God for small favors( :lol: just kidding..for most Canadians anyway)). Also the main roads into Canada are fairly secure and there is alot of forestland up there that would have to be traversed on foot to avoid most boarder crossings..that's nothing like the open desert. We do need more security on ALL boarders though this I do agree. Characterizations of the illegal alien range from the sympathetic to the xenophobic. Such characterizations contribute to the confusion about the illegal alien problem. The media usually portrays the plight of the illegal alien in the United States using the historical view of a nation of immigrants. Often, the media resists portraying the illegal alien as anything but the hard working border-crosser that simply wants to feed his family. However, the traditional image of aliens may have changed as a result of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. The media influences our perceptions about the illegal alien in the United States. For example, portrayals of crowds of alien day laborers serve as a general definition of the illegal alien problem. (Chen, 1999) Such portrayals focus more on aesthetics than economic, health, or criminal justice issues. Residents are concerned about the way such crowds might bring down property values, or interfere with commerce. Even in this area, there is little consensus. Advocates and anti-illegal groups converge to create a distorted perception of the problem. Thousands of illegal aliens are gathering on a daily basis in known locations throughout the United States in order to be picked up by potential employers for a dayâs work. Although the INS has statutory authority under Title 8 USC Sec. 1357, and designated officers or employees of the Service have the power without warrant to interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to their right to be or to remain in the United States, the INS simply ignores this obvious opportunity to remove illegal aliens from the United States. The official policy of the INS, now Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (BICE), is to target employers of illegal aliens in an attempt to remove the reason why illegal aliens come to the United States. This policy evolved out of the employer sanctions included in the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. With 8 million illegal aliens in the United States and 1,062,279 apprehensions in 2002 this policy does not seem to be working. Another important issue is the implied powerless of the illegal alien. The growing Hispanic population and the increasing number of illegal aliens with legal ties has a direct relationship to this perception. In addition, other participants in the general environment, such as politicians and religious groups, have a vested interest in not enforcing interior immigration laws. Such groups stand to receive benefits from a larger alien population--one for votes, the other for potential converts. The implied powerlessness may be a strategic attempt to soften the impact of an amnesty program. Skerry compares the two perspectives of the illegal living in the shadows contrasted by those that are more vocal about their plight. In his opinion, the latter is a more accurate characterization. (Skerry, 2001) More recently, advocates compared the plight of illegal aliens to the civil rights movement and organized an immigrant workerâs freedom ride to rally support. Found at http://www.immigrantworkersfreedomride.com/default.asp Another popular issue focuses on native xenophobia, and the ongoing debate between advocates and opponents of illegal aliens in the United States. However, these issues obfuscate more relevant concerns about interior enforcement of the immigration laws. For decades, the policy makers seemed to concern themselves with the cultural and economic determinants of illegal immigration. As a result of the World Trade Center attack, these same policy makers are forced to deal with other enforcement issues regarding illegal immigration. (Edsall, 2001). A recent opinion survey revealed that the general public is opposed to illegal immigration and yet most elected representatives seem to favor lax interior enforcement of the immigration laws. (Camarota, 2002) Our ideas and sentiments about illegal aliens developed over time. An appropriate focus for such an investigation might include analyzing the development of policy regarding enforcement of the immigration laws. By way of introduction, immigration law violators are not immigrants . They are aliens who are in the United States in violation of law. There is a profound difference between individuals who legally apply for admission and fulfill all the requirements for admission, and those who decide to enter the United States, or intentionally overstay their visa in violation of law. Labeling such violators as intending immigrants only confuses the issue and juxtaposing these two categories is specious logic. A few of the important differences include criminal and health backgrounds of intending entrants. A lawfully admitted alien must undergo health screening and will not be admitted if found to have a communicable disease. Similarly, certain criminal convictions exclude some aliens from admission into the United States as well. Of course, the smuggled alien, or one who enters without inspection, bypasses such rules and regulations. This is not to suggest that the majority of illegal entrants into the United States are criminals or diseased, but a percentage of this group are. Just how many criminal aliens are in the United States is difficult to determine primarily because many who are in custody either do not disclose their true status, or they are released before INS can remove them. Immigration Laws and the Illegal Alien Problem The basis of immigration law enforcement today is the McCarran-Walter Act or the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) of 1952 The INA relied on a national origins quota system with a preference system for Eastern Hemisphere immigrants, and was concerned with excluding and removing subversives and communists. Since the INA, amendments have been added and the law changed in an apparent attempt to solve the illegal alien problem. This discussion does not attempt to analyze each amendment or law in any detail. The main issue is the apparent consequences of all the legislation. After INA, the Immigration Act of 1965 repealed the national origins quota system and all nations were given an equal chance to immigrate to the United States. Immigration Commissioners come and go with each Administration, but the only consistent pattern that has emerged since the 1970s is that the illegal alien population is growing at a rapid pace. The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was signed into law by President Reagan and included amnesty for aliens who could establish residence in the United States since January 1, 1982, employer sanctions aimed at removing the lure of employment, and a special exemption for aliens employed in agricultural work. The Triennial Comprehensive Report on Immigration (USINS, 1999) showed that 2.7 million person gained lawful permanent residence as a direct result of IRCA. Although the Immigration Act of 1990 (IMMACT90) that took effect in 1992, more than doubled the number of visas available to persons who qualified for employment-based immigration, it also attempted to begin removing aliens with aggravated felony convictions. This focus on removing criminal aliens continued with the addition of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) that attempted to apply retroactivity to aggravated alien felons in the United States. In addition to adding Border Patrol agents (5000) and interior enforcement agents (300) over several years, the IIRIRA also expedited removals of certain excludable aliens applying for admission into the United States. Needless to say, the various amendments are under continuous judicial review and this tends to neutralize the intent of the laws. Interior Enforcement Official statistics on interior enforcement are not readily available and generally highlight agency goals and priorities when they are. On March 1, 2003, the INS enforcement branch, which includes border enforcement and the investigations unit (interior enforcement), became part of the Department of Homeland Security-Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (BICE). Whether or not this reorganization plan addresses the problem of interior enforcement of the immigration laws is yet to be seen. Although it is too early to tell, the focus appears to be on preventing terrorists from entering the United States. The processing of service related functions will remain within the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (BCIS), however the role of the investigations unit (interior enforcement) is not clearly defined. Since 1924, when the Border Patrol began enforcing the immigration laws, enforcement policies were mostly concerned with agricultural labor and politics. An example is the well-known bracero program that enabled mostly Mexican laborers to pick fruit in the southwest. In the past, opposition to similar bracero programs (now referred to as guest worker programs) was based on fears that the temporary workers would not return home. The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 included a provision for special agricultural workers, and Congress is presently considering legislation that would allow temporary workers in the United States. The General Accounting Office (GAO) criticized the INS for failing to remove criminal aliens in the United States. (Rabkin, 1999) In such cases, inefficiency can be quite serious as seen in the Resendez case. Angel Maturino-Resendez, found guilty of killing at least nine people and sentenced to death, was the subject of a nation wide manhunt. He turned himself in to authorities, but it was determined that INS previously had him in custody and released him. (Rayavan, 1999) It would seem that one of the easiest ways to apprehend an illegal alien is when that individual is already in the custody of another law enforcement entity. One has to wonder why the INS seems to have such difficulty deporting criminal aliens. Could shortage of special agents be the reason that only 3074 agents are available to cover 50 states (that is approximately 61 agents per state-2002 budget)? Or, is this an unofficial policy decision not to enforce immigration laws inside the United States? The INS estimated that there were 7 million illegal aliens residing in the United States in January 2000. According to INS, 69% of this unauthorized immigrant population was from Mexico. (USINS, 2003) However, the top 15 sending countries accounted for 89% of the total illegal alien population and included Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Colombia, Honduras, China, Ecuador, Dominican Republic, Philippines, Brazil, Haiti, India, Peru, Korea, and Canada. This means that a significant number of illegal aliens entered the United States through other than the Mexico-US border and that they fall under the jurisdiction of the investigations section (interior enforcement), not the Border Patrol. These statistics further indicate that the illegal alien problem is both a border and an interior enforcement problem. More importantly, the interior problem seems to be far greater than the border problem. However, the INS never placed much emphasis on interior enforcement. As a matter of fact, there is very little interior enforcement of the immigration laws going on. Interior enforcement lags behind all other functions of the agency and the INS clearly prioritized the Border Patrol function. The two major functions of the INS include service to the public and enforcement. The service to the public involves processing applications for benefits such as lawful permanent residence and citizenship. The assumption is that INS allocates equal priority to both functions. Even in the area of service, where most organizations attempt to satisfy their mandates, backlogs in applications (especially citizenship) also continues to plague the INS. (Chang, 1999) Any intelligent immigration enforcement strategy must include border security and interior enforcement. Interior enforcement includes investigations, deportation, and inspections, all separate units within the legacy INS. BICE admitted that the INS devoted over five times more resources to the Border Patrol than the Investigations Section. It listed five enforcement strategies for interior enforcement to follow including locating and removing criminal aliens, dismantling smuggling operations, responding to community complaints about illegal immigration, investigating document and benefit fraud, and access to illegal aliens by employers. (Stana, 2003) The new policies correctly address needed priorities in order to accomplish a meaningful interior enforcement of the immigration laws. However, on October 23, 2003, five months after this new policy was offered as testimony before the U. S. Congress, BICE initiated what was referred to as âthe largest crackdown in years,â (Greenhouse, 2003) Operation Rollback, a round up of 245 low-level workers who were part of cleanup crews for the Wal-Mart Stores Inc., based in Bentonville, Arkansas. (Sanger, 2003) Although these illegal aliens were from 18 countries, most of them were from Mexico (37%). Interestingly, immigration officials stated that if these illegal aliens did not have a previous criminal record, they would be released with notices to appear before Immigration Judges. Even though BICE is behind in its attempts to remove criminal aliens it decided to launch an enforcement strategy aimed at low-level workers in menial jobs. Although Operation Rollback can be classified as one of the new priorities, it is hardly an effective way to deter illegal immigration. Wal-Mart immediately distanced itself from the investigation and pointed the finger at contract employees who were to blame. Some politicians actually referred to the operation as âterrorizingâ workers and believed that there should be a âbetter wayâ to solve the problem such as focusing on the employer instead of the illegal worker. (Reuters, 2003) This type of enforcement strategy is traditional in its approach. It is meant to create the impression that something is being done about the illegal alien problem but serves little else in terms of solving it. It is very likely that the illegal aliens released with notices to appear later will never show up at their appointed hearings. I have discussed the problems of interior enforcement elsewhere and the conclusion drawn form interviews with members of the Investigations Section is that INS never intended to enforce the immigration laws inside the United States. The morale in the Investigations Unit in New York, and nationally as well, was so low that many officers simply gave up and transferred to other agencies in the government. (Weissinger, 1996) In closing, we dont need a bigger fence, we need better enforcement. just the facts mam...
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 11:43
Speaking from a United states born, mexican american...Let me say this. Mexican immigrants usually take the jobs no one else wants. Givin the opprotunity they would pay taxes on the wages they got if it meant they DIDNT have to go back to mexico AND have to pay the wages they rightfully diserve instead of at a quarter of the FAIR price. The propoganda was wrong, first they said mexicans were lazy, then they said (in his best south park voice) they took our jobs, I think they only thing they got right was we are fantastic lovers. Most of my family is already here, and has been here in the united states well over 6 generations. Im going to agree with everyone that flamed u, but leave you with somthing my dad once told me before he died mowing a lawn. Every man has the right to support his family. And since we dont know the meaning of prophylactic device, that number is gonna continue to grow. So long as people want things built, mowed, plumbed, or clogs need to be removed from their shit tanks, we are gonna be here, We're here, we like beer! get used to it.. heh Sure every man has the right to support his family within reason. If you choose to break the law to support your family then you better be ready to face the consequence. I mean why should legal citizens have to pay for the pleasure of you (not personally you, but anyone) doing whatever you want to feed your family. If you jump the border despite the reason you are commiting a crime and that's all there is to it, a felony at that. I see your point about breaking the law. But lets get real here, we're not talking armed robbery. We are talking about crossing over an invisable line, to seek job opprotunities. They just dont exhist in their own country. They consume just like anyone else and pay taxes just like anyone else, but arent eligigable for the same civil services like welfare unless they are a US citizen. The only people that are eligable are their children who are born here. They get those services. The problem isnt the people coming here illeagally. The problem is the governement hasnt figured out a way to profit from their misfortune. I gurantee you that if they could tax the untaxable, you would see a dramatic increase in the united states net revenues. and people wouldnt be all pissy about this whole situation. Lets get real here for a moment. We are talking numbers, everyone believes that more immigrants mean more stuff they shouldnt have to pay for because they dont pay taxes. I say figure out a way to make'em pay taxes instead of trying to make the wall bigger. the only thing thats gonna do is just figure out some other way of getting across. That or put jobs in their own countries... You're right crossing the border is not armed robbery, but it's still a felony im sure; just like jumping the border. Whether or not its causing terror or not the point is it's still a serious crime. Sales tax doesn't count as paying taxes. If you have met a single illegal that sends in money to the IRS or visits them with a check in hand you let me know; I may just change my mind on that one. Not to mention there are plenty of illegals who benefit from our government services who ARE NOT the children of illegals born here, but original border hopers themselves. I live(d) in Texas (yeah, you can make fun of that later) and I know from the horses mouth that they get programs designed for legal citizens. What they do is, as far as medical care is concerned, a hispanic woman (usually a friend or what have you) will go down to a clinic and take an illegal male and claim that he is her husband and vice versa; and believe me, anyone who looks the part will do it. They take cousins, friends, uncles, anyone and our stupid government doesn't even ask for proof. So, don't think benefits start at illega's children because it just doesn't. You're damn right, if the country could make a profit off of illegals and they paid taxes it wouldn't be as bad. But we're not making a profit are we, in fact we're losing money and that just shouldn't be. Illegals have rights sure, just not in this country. Now let us "be real" for a moment you can not just let any old body into the country, where do you draw the line at? Illegals have no rights in this country as far as the right to work. Its just that simple. Instead of coming over, why not try to improve their own country? It's not the United State's fault that Mexico or wherever is in the state that it is in, it's just not our problem. Sorry, but you've got to deal with the cards you're dealt. If you don't like your hell hole country then leave; legally.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 12:30
Hey verticalkiller.....What happened to your avatar? I miss your smiling face!
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 13:08
Hey verticalkiller.....What happened to your avatar? I miss your smiling face! I made a comment on how race doesn't matter and I didn't want it to seem like I was saying it purely on the fact that I was the race (well half of it) they were offending. But thanks for the reminder I kinda forgot about it.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 19:11
You're right crossing the border is not armed robbery, but it's still a felony im sure; just like jumping the border. Whether or not its causing terror or not the point is it's still a serious crime. Sales tax doesn't count as paying taxes. If you have met a single illegal that sends in money to the IRS or visits them with a check in hand you let me know; I may just change my mind on that one. Not to mention there are plenty of illegals who benefit from our government services who ARE NOT the children of illegals born here, but original border hopers themselves. I live(d) in Texas (yeah, you can make fun of that later) and I know from the horses mouth that they get programs designed for legal citizens. What they do is, as far as medical care is concerned, a hispanic woman (usually a friend or what have you) will go down to a clinic and take an illegal male and claim that he is her husband and vice versa; and believe me, anyone who looks the part will do it. They take cousins, friends, uncles, anyone and our stupid government doesn't even ask for proof. So, don't think benefits start at illega's children because it just doesn't. You're damn right, if the country could make a profit off of illegals and they paid taxes it wouldn't be as bad. But we're not making a profit are we, in fact we're losing money and that just shouldn't be. Illegals have rights sure, just not in this country. Now let us "be real" for a moment you can not just let any old body into the country, where do you draw the line at? Illegals have no rights in this country as far as the right to work. Its just that simple. Instead of coming over, why not try to improve their own country? It's not the United State's fault that Mexico or wherever is in the state that it is in, it's just not our problem. Sorry, but you've got to deal with the cards you're dealt. If you don't like your hell hole country then leave; legally. Well thought. Well put. Nice post. :)
tgd_02Salvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 19:18
Do yourself and the general public a big favor and you drop dead friend. You have no intelligent input...at least that I have seen from your most recent posts toward me. You appear to me to be just another annoying obnoxious guy on a message board with an upside down cross for an icon so that you might offend someone and get more attention...or just because you think it's "cool". :twisted: :lol: :roll: :twisted: I'm all of the sudden a racist too.."white heaven"? Please do not favor me with your moronic sputterings. I doubt my words will do any good however. There are people like you all over the internet...those that spout off at the mouth with nothing to back them up. Attention seekers...morons in my book. You started the fire. I'll pour gas on you and throw you into it screaming if you mouth off some more ignorance to me. Satan/Lucifer is a pussy by the way...if that's why you have your little icon. :wink: Ia Ia Cthulhu Fhtagn. Oh yeah..something about your gay pics? I don't care to see them. Keep your porn collection to yourself if you please I'm not a homosexual. :lol: I'm so sorry what was I saying...we didn't get off to a good first meeting did we? :twisted: lol took it to heart didnt you? and btw go learn a little more about my avatar before you throw shit at me or even begin to ponder why it is that i have it, since you seem to be o so mighty here you think that you can assume all that i do and the reasoning behind it, ooo well some ppl cant take sarcasm or insults lightly eh? :roll: :P :lol:
andrexoteSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 19:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhEl6HdfqWM everybody just chill out ok!?
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 21:52
lol took it to heart didnt you? and btw go learn a little more about my avatar before you throw shit at me or even begin to ponder why it is that i have it, since you seem to be o so mighty here you think that you can assume all that i do and the reasoning behind it, ooo well some ppl cant take sarcasm or insults lightly eh? :roll: :P :lol: Why don't you tell me about your avatar. No one understands you right? :wink: Nice backing away there as you should. Some people don't like it when people piss on their conversations when they are trying to have an intelligent one you bet. I can take it lightly and I was light. I have laughed alot from this thread. :lol: :twisted: :lol:
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 21:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhEl6HdfqWM everybody just chill out ok!? I am chilled. I have been chilled. I never let my fingers type before my brain. That video is crap. Reread prior posts by me. Or if you can't do that ask me to explain why that video is utter horseshite. :twisted:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 22:02
lol took it to heart didnt you? and btw go learn a little more about my avatar before you throw shit at me or even begin to ponder why it is that i have it, since you seem to be o so mighty here you think that you can assume all that i do and the reasoning behind it, ooo well some ppl cant take sarcasm or insults lightly eh? :roll: :P :lol: Why don't you tell me about your avatar. No one understands you right? :wink: Nice backing away there as you should. Some people don't like it when people piss on their conversations when they are trying to have an intelligent one you bet. I can take it lightly and I was light. I have laughed alot from this thread. :lol: :twisted: :lol: i dont need ppl on the internet to understand me k? cant take a joke? pity you fault u went on the attack after my post oh well
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 22:37
You're right crossing the border is not armed robbery, but it's still a felony im sure; just like jumping the border. Whether or not its causing terror or not the point is it's still a serious crime. Sales tax doesn't count as paying taxes. If you have met a single illegal that sends in money to the IRS or visits them with a check in hand you let me know; I may just change my mind on that one. Not to mention there are plenty of illegals who benefit from our government services who ARE NOT the children of illegals born here, but original border hopers themselves. I live(d) in Texas (yeah, you can make fun of that later) and I know from the horses mouth that they get programs designed for legal citizens. What they do is, as far as medical care is concerned, a hispanic woman (usually a friend or what have you) will go down to a clinic and take an illegal male and claim that he is her husband and vice versa; and believe me, anyone who looks the part will do it. They take cousins, friends, uncles, anyone and our stupid government doesn't even ask for proof. So, don't think benefits start at illega's children because it just doesn't. You're damn right, if the country could make a profit off of illegals and they paid taxes it wouldn't be as bad. But we're not making a profit are we, in fact we're losing money and that just shouldn't be. Illegals have rights sure, just not in this country. Now let us "be real" for a moment you can not just let any old body into the country, where do you draw the line at? Illegals have no rights in this country as far as the right to work. Its just that simple. Instead of coming over, why not try to improve their own country? It's not the United State's fault that Mexico or wherever is in the state that it is in, it's just not our problem. Sorry, but you've got to deal with the cards you're dealt. If you don't like your hell hole country then leave; legally. Well thought. Well put. Nice post. :) gracias (not being a smart ass, I say that all the time)
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 22:39
i dont need ppl on the internet to understand me k? cant take a joke? pity you fault u went on the attack after my post oh well I can take a good hearted joke anytime. I become annoyed at flames though..like calling someone a racist and to go kill themselves. Aye that's really funny... :roll: Who went on the attack? After which post? Like I said you started the fire. :lol:
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 22:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhEl6HdfqWM everybody just chill out ok!? What was that about? Seriously, this isn't even a charged conversation it's just a debate of sorts. That video was ridiculous by the way and unfounded.
andrexoteSalvaged from archive11 Jun 2006, 23:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhEl6HdfqWM everybody just chill out ok!? What was that about? Seriously, this isn't even a charged conversation it's just a debate of sorts. That video was ridiculous by the way and unfounded. yeaaaa i was kinda bored and i didnt want to read all that thing posted before :roll: sorry :P hell no that video kik asses! man i love supernews...:lol: :lol:
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive12 Jun 2006, 00:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhEl6HdfqWM That video cracked me up, CRACKER! I saw so many different members of FileCabi.net portrayed here, Overlord, Ers, etc I actually found it very funny how they caught different personalities in the characters.
OsoSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 00:28
âThe New Colossusâ by Emma Lazarus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. â"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"â cries she With silent lips. âGive me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!â ------------- Securing the border is one thing, but deporting people trying to earn a living is another, I say reform the tax law, before we start passing laws that get honest hard working people dreams ripped away from them.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 01:13
âThe New Colossusâ by Emma Lazarus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. â"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"â cries she With silent lips. âGive me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!â ------------- Securing the border is one thing, but deporting people trying to earn a living is another, I say reform the tax law, before we start passing laws that get honest hard working people dreams ripped away from them. They can dream in their own country.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 01:51
âThe New Colossusâ by Emma Lazarus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. â"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"â cries she With silent lips. âGive me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!â ------------- Securing the border is one thing, but deporting people trying to earn a living is another, I say reform the tax law, before we start passing laws that get honest hard working people dreams ripped away from them. Even Lady Liberty has laws. Obey them. Come here through proper recourse. Deporting people trying to earn a living is one thing your right..if they are U.S. citizens. :wink: Deporting illegal aliens for trying to make a living while not paying income tax and using government social services that real citizens including legal immigrants pay for is another. If they have dreams for living here then do it legally or as VK said make your dreams happen in your own land.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 09:42
âThe New Colossusâ by Emma Lazarus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. â"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"â cries she With silent lips. âGive me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!â ------------- http://www.usconstitution.com/statue_of_liberty.jpg Securing the border is one thing, but deporting people trying to earn a living is another, I say reform the tax law, before we start passing laws that get honest hard working people dreams ripped away from them. Don't even compare today's immigration problem with the millions that came here through legal means, head held high, saying... "I am Here!, Here is where I want to be and Here is where I want to stay and work, and call home and to contribute to the whole. I did not sneak into this country by the dark of night, I did not squeeze into the back of a truck and have to sleep on dead bodies to get here. I did not run from officials with badges and guns who told me to halt! I came to the front door by a means that I paid for myself, I knocked and I asked to come in. I will contribute to the betterment and well being of my new country and countrymen, I will not rob, rape, pillage or loot. I will not sell drugs or corrupt others, I will be a positive law abiding influence to those around me and a good ambassador for others from my homeland that wish to come here! I am an IMMIGRANT and PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!"
OsoSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 18:46
âThe New Colossusâ by Emma Lazarus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. â"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"â cries she With silent lips. âGive me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!â ------------- http://www.usconstitution.com/statue_of_liberty.jpg Securing the border is one thing, but deporting people trying to earn a living is another, I say reform the tax law, before we start passing laws that get honest hard working people dreams ripped away from them. Don't even compare today's immigration problem with the millions that came here through legal means, head held high, saying... "I am Here!, Here is where I want to be and Here is where I want to stay and work, and call home and to contribute to the whole. I did not sneak into this country by the dark of night, I did not squeeze into the back of a truck and have to sleep on dead bodies to get here. I did not run from officials with badges and guns who told me to halt! I came to the front door by a means that I paid for myself, I knocked and I asked to come in. I will contribute to the betterment and well being of my new country and countrymen, I will not rob, rape, pillage or loot. I will not sell drugs or corrupt others, I will be a positive law abiding influence to those around me and a good ambassador for others from my homeland that wish to come here! I am an IMMIGRANT and PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!" I reiterate, reform the tax laws,make the border safe, and makem pay taxes. and by the way, Stating immigrants from the europe said they would not rob rape pillage and loot, Umm i believe they DID I think it was called the original 13 colonies, FROM THE NATIVE AMERICANS. Dont sit on your high horse and presume that all immigrants are robbers and rapists and pillagers and looters just because they ARENT European. And by the way, there were millions of people that got here ILLEAGALLY as well some of it was slavery some of them were irish. ALL countries have their dregs on society, its completely unfair to rule a country out based on the actions of the few. Why is ok for whites to do it but the moment minorities try to do the same its NOT ok? I will agree with you on your point if you agree to state that ALL those people that got here illegally is still illegal, no matter HOW long ago it was.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 21:30
âThe New Colossusâ by Emma Lazarus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. â"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"â cries she With silent lips. âGive me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!â ------------- http://www.usconstitution.com/statue_of_liberty.jpg Securing the border is one thing, but deporting people trying to earn a living is another, I say reform the tax law, before we start passing laws that get honest hard working people dreams ripped away from them. Don't even compare today's immigration problem with the millions that came here through legal means, head held high, saying... "I am Here!, Here is where I want to be and Here is where I want to stay and work, and call home and to contribute to the whole. I did not sneak into this country by the dark of night, I did not squeeze into the back of a truck and have to sleep on dead bodies to get here. I did not run from officials with badges and guns who told me to halt! I came to the front door by a means that I paid for myself, I knocked and I asked to come in. I will contribute to the betterment and well being of my new country and countrymen, I will not rob, rape, pillage or loot. I will not sell drugs or corrupt others, I will be a positive law abiding influence to those around me and a good ambassador for others from my homeland that wish to come here! I am an IMMIGRANT and PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!" I reiterate, reform the tax laws,make the border safe, and makem pay taxes. and by the way, Stating immigrants from the europe said they would not rob rape pillage and loot, Umm i believe they DID I think it was called the original 13 colonies, FROM THE NATIVE AMERICANS. Dont sit on your high horse and presume that all immigrants are robbers and rapists and pillagers and looters just because they ARENT European. And by the way, there were millions of people that got here ILLEAGALLY as well some of it was slavery some of them were irish. ALL countries have their dregs on society, its completely unfair to rule a country out based on the actions of the few. Why is ok for whites to do it but the moment minorities try to do the same its NOT ok? I will agree with you on your point if you agree to state that ALL those people that got here illegally is still illegal, no matter HOW long ago it was. You took that out of context, relax. He's not saying current illegal immigrants do that shit but the point is if you come over that should be your motto to NOT do those things. No ones picking on hispanics or whoever, they just happen to be the majority-illegal-minority. If there were a bunch of euro-trash bastards coming in doing the same thing that illegals are doing today send their asses back to wherever they came from. What happened to the Indians was terrible but at least the US is half-assed trying to make it up to them. Two wrong don't make a right, you can't come here illegaly, you just can't I don't see how you can see past that. We wouldn't give the same right to a murderer. I killed someone but i'm doing great now and blah blah blah, you still stole someones life. Just like illegals are stealing the right to work here and the fees that have to be payed to work legaly here from immigrants that came here the proper way. I don't understand why you don't see that a crime is a crime is a crime and those comitting such crimes need to be dealt with in a quick and civil manner.
DrazSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 21:38
http://forums.filecabi.net/images/avatars/662223667448f71… strech marks
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 21:56
http://forums.filecabi.net/images/avatars/662223667448f71… strech marks Everyone has stretch marks.....whats your point? Clearly you've never been with or seen a woman before....... Im not even going to waste my time arguing with you about myself, im secure enough to show my back and the ink on it to not give a fuck what you or anyone else has to say. Hit puberty and come back with something worthwhile to say. This has nothing to do with immigrants. So until it does, fuck off and grow up. You really don't want to go there with me, and if you do start up a topic about me. I came to argue immigrants, not my body, and until you post a pic of yourself you make this an unfair advantage don't you? All I have to go on is the fact that you don't respect women (previous post) and the fact that if your life depended on spelling, grammar and logic you'd have been dead long ago. You got the balls to talk about me like you're an adult then make it fair. If not, shut your fucking mouth you dipwad highschool kid, go worry about your prom or something rather than my skin.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 02:26
http://forums.filecabi.net/images/avatars/662223667448f71… strech marks Everyone has stretch marks.....whats your point? Clearly you've never been with or seen a woman before....... Im not even going to waste my time arguing with you about myself, im secure enough to show my back and the ink on it to not give a fuck what you or anyone else has to say. Hit puberty and come back with something worthwhile to say. This has nothing to do with immigrants. So until it does, fuck off and grow up. You really don't want to go there with me, and if you do start up a topic about me. I came to argue immigrants, not my body, and until you post a pic of yourself you make this an unfair advantage don't you? All I have to go on is the fact that you don't respect women (previous post) and the fact that if your life depended on spelling, grammar and logic you'd have been dead long ago. You got the balls to talk about me like you're an adult then make it fair. If not, shut your fucking mouth you dipwad highschool kid, go worry about your prom or something rather than my skin. LOL I think your right about Draz there. All I've seen out of him is pointless mindless spew. I have a few stretch marks...down my back..looks like I was bullwhiped a bit as a child, but they are just where I grew so damn fast reaching 6'4&1/2" almost before I was 16 years old. Doctor even asked me about them once. :lol:
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 11:45
http://forums.filecabi.net/images/avatars/662223667448f71… strech marks May I suggest cocoa butter creams, works wonders! Oh yeah, if the future hubby won't oblige you by rubbing it on, give BIG OZZIE a shout.......these hands are experienced! Anyway, no matters....been wanting to ask (no insult intended) what is your tattoo of? I thought it was a Blue Dove or Bird, my wife thought it was an angel. Still not sure.......got a hangover real bad. As soon as I figure how to use my digital camera, take some pictures, load into computer and save, I will download them into a new forum that I have yet to start on tattoos. Anyway, need a wide angle lens to get the one on my back! Now that I've succeeded in keeping this post off topic......what were we discussing?
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 12:15
Don't even compare today's immigration problem with the millions that came here through legal means, head held high, saying... "I am Here!, Here is where I want to be and Here is where I want to stay and work, and call home and to contribute to the whole. I did not sneak into this country by the dark of night, I did not squeeze into the back of a truck and have to sleep on dead bodies to get here. I did not run from officials with badges and guns who told me to halt! I came to the front door by a means that I paid for myself, I knocked and I asked to come in. I will contribute to the betterment and well being of my new country and countrymen, I will not rob, rape, pillage or loot. I will not sell drugs or corrupt others, I will be a positive law abiding influence to those around me and a good ambassador for others from my homeland that wish to come here! I am an IMMIGRANT and PROUD TO BE A CITIZEN of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!" I reiterate, reform the tax laws,make the border safe, and makem pay taxes. and by the way, Stating immigrants from the europe said they would not rob rape pillage and loot, Umm i believe they DID I think it was called the original 13 colonies, FROM THE NATIVE AMERICANS. Dont sit on your high horse and presume that all immigrants are robbers and rapists and pillagers and looters just because they ARENT European. And by the way, there were millions of people that got here ILLEAGALLY as well some of it was slavery some of them were irish. ALL countries have their dregs on society, its completely unfair to rule a country out based on the actions of the few. Why is ok for whites to do it but the moment minorities try to do the same its NOT ok? I will agree with you on your point if you agree to state that ALL those people that got here illegally is still illegal, no matter HOW long ago it was. First, Thank-you, Verticalkiller you interpreted my post correctly. Next to Oso, you my friend are Oso wrong! The United States was settled by oppressed peoples, criminals, dreamers, visionaries and an assortment of social outcasts who were seeking new freedoms and a chance at a new life in a new land. Nowhere did I ever state that European immigrants would not rape or pillage. But unfortunately, some did. As well as Asian, African, Middle Eastern, Latin and South American. Why tell me to get off a high horse when I do not ride one? and either I am too hungover or your post is making less sense by the fucking minute. So, I will acquiesce this thread to allow my brain to recoup so as to try and make sense out of the crap that you just posted.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 14:29
http://forums.filecabi.net/images/avatars/662223667448f71… strech marks May I suggest cocoa butter creams, works wonders! Oh yeah, if the future hubby won't oblige you by rubbing it on, give BIG OZZIE a shout.......these hands are experienced! Anyway, no matters....been wanting to ask (no insult intended) what is your tattoo of? I thought it was a Blue Dove or Bird, my wife thought it was an angel. Still not sure.......got a hangover real bad. As soon as I figure how to use my digital camera, take some pictures, load into computer and save, I will download them into a new forum that I have yet to start on tattoos. Anyway, need a wide angle lens to get the one on my back! Now that I've succeeded in keeping this post off topic......what were we discussing? Well, I just got it this past Saturday and i've been getting the......whats is it question ever since. The colors aren't done yet still waiting for the red and pink. YOu were right with the bird part, its a swallow. Flames are coming between the wings and the body (that's why there is that space of skin dead in the middle) and the head and wings still need to be colored in pink. I think the fact that the gead is backward and a wing upside down is why you can't see it straight away. I may have to take you up on the rubbing down offer, future hubby doesn't like my tattoos :( ; however he doesn't have a problem with the humminbird on my ass ( I like birds) go figure huh? But the swallow and both feet tattooed he could do without. Not to mention the various piercings in........hmm different places. He's a bit conservative in that respect, but I will happily join on that topic you start. I love looking at other peoples skin. By the way, you're welcome for the interpretation.
b4uizmeSalvaged from archive20 Jun 2006, 16:23
Captain Creepy is correct. Why not stay in your own country and try to make it better. Why ruin your own country then leave and try and ruin ours
andrexoteSalvaged from archive20 Jun 2006, 16:39
thank you for not to read other post, now read what it is about before start a new whole conv. about the same thing;)
cheese muffinSalvaged from archive20 Jun 2006, 20:40
Captain Creepy is correct. Why not stay in your own country and try to make it better. Why ruin your own country then leave and try and ruin ours by the time you actually make it "better", you probably won't have much time to enjoy the "better".
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive20 Jun 2006, 20:47
by the time you actually make it "better", you probably won't have much time to enjoy the "better". Generations of Americans worked to make life better here. Why should anyone get a shortcut by breaking the law.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive20 Jun 2006, 22:23
Captain Creepy is correct. Why not stay in your own country and try to make it better. Why ruin your own country then leave and try and ruin ours by the time you actually make it "better", you probably won't have much time to enjoy the "better". Well you make it better for your children and grandchildren. Pfft, this topic is getting redundent (sp?). Illegals are exactly that, illegal. The end.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive21 Jun 2006, 09:50
DAMN U IMIGRANTS RUNING MY COUNTRY AND SPOILING THE WHITE MANS FOOD AND WATER ! ARGH!!!
b4uizmeSalvaged from archive21 Jun 2006, 18:08
cheese muffin wrote: by the time you actually make it "better", you probably won't have much time to enjoy the "better". Their children would. Fix it instead of running away. They sure know how to fight for their rights here. Try doing it at home. :roll:
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive24 Jun 2006, 03:02
cheese muffin wrote: by the time you actually make it "better", you probably won't have much time to enjoy the "better". Their children would. Fix it instead of running away. They sure know how to fight for their rights here. Try doing it at home. :roll: indeed, I liked that ending.
DrazSalvaged from archive24 Jun 2006, 03:27
fuck all of you
tgd_02Salvaged from archive24 Jun 2006, 12:31
cheese muffin wrote: by the time you actually make it "better", you probably won't have much time to enjoy the "better". Their children would. Fix it instead of running away. They sure know how to fight for their rights here. Try doing it at home. :roll: you, shut the fuck up fuck all of you and you, go fuck yourself
andrexoteSalvaged from archive24 Jun 2006, 13:25
lol, you think thats so easy, it is true that most of ilegal doesnt use the chance that USA gives to them even on a second person way. but to say that stay and fix your own country is kinda impossible, i know USA maybe got so bigger, powerful and nasty with time, i can respect that, but hey!, its not easy (for example) to sell a "made in mex/peru/bolivia" product of 5$, against a "made in china" same product of 2$. politicians signs contrats with big countries because they got bribed...and these products "relavite"with low price cant compete with ours. my point is that a 3rd world country wont increase with bribes, policemans needs to bribe a commissioner to be a police, and bribe cars..., people bribes judges for not going to jail(this is so normal), presidents use 200,000$ budget to his drinks with their party members. :? are we not poor enough to be celebrating all weekends?? lets say there is a porcentage who wants to change this country, n i hope to be one of them CORRUPTION MY FRIENDS, THATS THE BIG PROBLEM
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive24 Jun 2006, 14:13
lol, you think thats so easy, it is true that most of ilegal doesnt use the chance that USA gives to them even on a second person way. but to say that stay and fix your own country is kinda impossible, i know USA maybe got so bigger, powerful and nasty with time, i can respect that, but hey!, its not easy (for example) to sell a "made in mex/peru/bolivia" product of 5$, against a "made in china" same product of 2$. politicians signs contrats with big countries because they got bribed...and these products "relavite"with low price cant compete with ours. my point is that a 3rd world country wont increase with bribes, policemans needs to bribe a commissioner to be a police, and bribe cars..., people bribes judges for not going to jail(this is so normal), presidents use 200,000$ budget to his drinks with their party members. :? are we not poor enough to be celebrating all weekends?? lets say there is a porcentage who wants to change this country, n i hope to be one of them CORRUPTION MY FRIENDS, THATS THE BIG PROBLEM Too bad, that's not an excuse to be a felon. You wanna come in, do it the right way. Don't steal what others have worked so hard for.
andrexoteSalvaged from archive24 Jun 2006, 14:16
if you want to go out on the rite way, u gotta bribe more..see thats the problem..:? its not a excuse but its what you are against in some countries
tgd_02Salvaged from archive24 Jun 2006, 14:38
Too bad, that's not an excuse to be a felon. You wanna come in, do it the right way. Don't steal what others have worked so hard for. necause its SOOO EASY TO DO SO, moron
OutlawIncarnateSalvaged from archive28 Jun 2006, 23:28
There was actually a recent poll done in Texas about this subject. This was the question: Are you against illegal immigration? 43 percent of Texas replied Yes The other 57 percent replied, "No hable inglÃ©s"
b4uizmeSalvaged from archive29 Jun 2006, 18:43
Now thats funny! =)
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive29 Jun 2006, 19:38
Too bad, that's not an excuse to be a felon. You wanna come in, do it the right way. Don't steal what others have worked so hard for. necause its SOOO EASY TO DO SO, moron whats so easy to do? It would be nice if you uhh, oh I dunno, said what you were talking about. Ya know, you don't have much imput on anything. Do you have a point? I didn't think so.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive29 Jun 2006, 21:22
Too bad, that's not an excuse to be a felon. You wanna come in, do it the right way. Don't steal what others have worked so hard for. necause its SOOO EASY TO DO SO, moron whats so easy to do? It would be nice if you uhh, oh I dunno, said what you were talking about. Ya know, you don't have much imput on anything. Do you have a point? I didn't think so. you talk about entering the copuntry like its a 1-2-3 process, thats why i mentioned thatk got it get it...good
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive29 Jun 2006, 21:40
you talk about entering the copuntry like its a 1-2-3 process, thats why i mentioned thatk got it get it...good No excuses. There are established means of entering legally. Doesn't matter if it's not as easy as stepping over a fence. It is the LAW.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive29 Jun 2006, 23:16
Too bad, that's not an excuse to be a felon. You wanna come in, do it the right way. Don't steal what others have worked so hard for. necause its SOOO EASY TO DO SO, moron whats so easy to do? It would be nice if you uhh, oh I dunno, said what you were talking about. Ya know, you don't have much imput on anything. Do you have a point? I didn't think so. you talk about entering the copuntry like its a 1-2-3 process, thats why i mentioned thatk got it get it...good Who gives a fuck how long it takes? Why should we pay for the pleasure of a bunch of illegals coming in and taking what others have worked hard for. I don't give a fuck if they live in slums, under rocks, or in their corrupt presidents asshole. Not America's fucking problem. You're just blind and misguided because you think it's some sort of race thing, or they have 'the right' to make a better life for themselves. Truth is, it's not about racism cause hispanics aren't the only illegal fuckers in the country. Anybody who comes in unlawfully is fucking illegal. And no, you don't have the right to do shit if it breaks the laws of another country, and as quitely as it's kept, your own country. This is getting fucking redundent and the fact that you can't see the forest for the trees is litteraly making my blood pressure rise. I could care less if it's a million step process, it's irrelevent, I don't get the problem. If other people can do it, legally, so can they. Now if you just want a handout and want to sit on your lazy pathetic 3rd world ass then fucking rot. That's all I have to say and I could give a flying fuck less what your smart-mouthed ass has to say about anything. Cause that all you do is run your fucking chops and cause strife. Im surprised someone in your community hasn't stomped a fucking hole from your mouth to your asshole. You say barely intelligent things and then try to be a smartass about it. So to quote you: SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
tgd_02Salvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 10:20
Who gives a fuck how long it takes? Why should we pay for the pleasure of a bunch of illegals coming in and taking what others have worked hard for. I don't give a fuck if they live in slums, under rocks, or in their corrupt presidents asshole. Not America's fucking problem. You're just blind and misguided because you think it's some sort of race thing, or they have 'the right' to make a better life for themselves. Truth is, it's not about racism cause hispanics aren't the only illegal fuckers in the country. Anybody who comes in unlawfully is fucking illegal. And no, you don't have the right to do shit if it breaks the laws of another country, and as quitely as it's kept, your own country. This is getting fucking redundent and the fact that you can't see the forest for the trees is litteraly making my blood pressure rise. I could care less if it's a million step process, it's irrelevent, I don't get the problem. If other people can do it, legally, so can they. Now if you just want a handout and want to sit on your lazy pathetic 3rd world ass then fucking rot. That's all I have to say and I could give a flying fuck less what your smart-mouthed ass has to say about anything. Cause that all you do is run your fucking chops and cause strife. Im surprised someone in your community hasn't stomped a fucking hole from your mouth to your asshole. You say barely intelligent things and then try to be a smartass about it. So to quote you: SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! 1. your in englajnd shut your overglorified fat ass up-your not experiening shit 2. anyone who comes here illegaly is illegal? WOW WATA DISCOVERY-STFU 3. WHen did i mention race? never dont put words in my quotes, again STFU. 5.I bet you have NEVER broken any type of law :lol: :roll: 4.Hmm wonder how many hispanics that i know have been sitting on their ass and rotting...oh wait NONE they all work and taking the fucking jobs that stupid lazy americans dont want to do, i have a co-worker who claims that he has worked with "mexicans" and mentioned how they do most of the work then mentioned how when they were low on people he "actually" had to work!! now wtf does that tell me about the work enviroment in the US? 5.If your argument includes immigrants being lazy, doesnt that discredit or make 100's of republicans cries and tears obsolete when they complained about immigrants taking american jobs? :roll: :roll: :roll: And if i ramble and ramble idiotic things WHY THRE FUCK YOU ANSWERING ME??? NOW YOUR MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU CONSIDERED ME TO BE! GOOD JOB THERE JACKASS! *clap *clap Hispanic people have never tried to make this an issue about race, they want an opportunity and a chane to work, the americans who provide jobs and give them that oppurtunity will only make this countryu more diverse and give them a chance to follow a better life (please dont mention omfg! go fix your own country...cuz yea average people against the governemt, HA! when people in the US themselves cant control their bullshit president....riiiight) and even if they are illegal now, is your head so far up your giant black ass that you think their legal status will be like that FOREVER? Or that their kids wont become citizens or that they wont pursue citizenships even thought they have much more oppurtuniites than b4?? Wow your a fucking idiot who seems to cry about an issue that is current then quickly forgets about it because its no longer "cool" to sound smart about a dead isssue go fuck yourself and O SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH! ty! :wink:
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 11:40
Who gives a fuck how long it takes? Why should we pay for the pleasure of a bunch of illegals coming in and taking what others have worked hard for. I don't give a fuck if they live in slums, under rocks, or in their corrupt presidents asshole. Not America's fucking problem. You're just blind and misguided because you think it's some sort of race thing, or they have 'the right' to make a better life for themselves. Truth is, it's not about racism cause hispanics aren't the only illegal fuckers in the country. Anybody who comes in unlawfully is fucking illegal. And no, you don't have the right to do shit if it breaks the laws of another country, and as quitely as it's kept, your own country. This is getting fucking redundent and the fact that you can't see the forest for the trees is litteraly making my blood pressure rise. I could care less if it's a million step process, it's irrelevent, I don't get the problem. If other people can do it, legally, so can they. Now if you just want a handout and want to sit on your lazy pathetic 3rd world ass then fucking rot. That's all I have to say and I could give a flying fuck less what your smart-mouthed ass has to say about anything. Cause that all you do is run your fucking chops and cause strife. Im surprised someone in your community hasn't stomped a fucking hole from your mouth to your asshole. You say barely intelligent things and then try to be a smartass about it. So to quote you: SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! 1. your in englajnd shut your overglorified fat ass up-your not experiening shit 2. anyone who comes here illegaly is illegal? WOW WATA DISCOVERY-STFU 3. WHen did i mention race? never dont put words in my quotes, again STFU. 5.I bet you have NEVER broken any type of law :lol: :roll: 4.Hmm wonder how many hispanics that i know have been sitting on their ass and rotting...oh wait NONE they all work and taking the fucking jobs that stupid lazy americans dont want to do, i have a co-worker who claims that he has worked with "mexicans" and mentioned how they do most of the work then mentioned how when they were low on people he "actually" had to work!! now wtf does that tell me about the work enviroment in the US? 5.If your argument includes immigrants being lazy, doesnt that discredit or make 100's of republicans cries and tears obsolete when they complained about immigrants taking american jobs? :roll: :roll: :roll: And if i ramble and ramble idiotic things WHY THRE FUCK YOU ANSWERING ME??? NOW YOUR MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU CONSIDERED ME TO BE! GOOD JOB THERE JACKASS! *clap *clap Hispanic people have never tried to make this an issue about race, they want an opportunity and a chane to work, the americans who provide jobs and give them that oppurtunity will only make this countryu more diverse and give them a chance to follow a better life (please dont mention omfg! go fix your own country...cuz yea average people against the governemt, HA! when people in the US themselves cant control their bullshit president....riiiight) and even if they are illegal now, is your head so far up your giant black ass that you think their legal status will be like that FOREVER? Or that their kids wont become citizens or that they wont pursue citizenships even thought they have much more oppurtuniites than b4?? Wow your a fucking idiot who seems to cry about an issue that is current then quickly forgets about it because its no longer "cool" to sound smart about a dead isssue go fuck yourself and O SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH! ty! :wink: Wow, that was so ridiculous i barely know where to start. Let's start from the bottom up. 1. Explain to me how I am 'crying' about an issue then forget when it's no longer cool. This is probably the only thing I take personal offence to. This is the fucking internet, who am I impressing? Like I give a shit what a bunch of people I will NEVER meet think about me. So, please don't make things up. 2. a. That is absolute bullshit that hispanics don't try and make this a race thing. You must be out of your mind. That's like their number two excuse for why they think illegals should be gone. Not to mention you can't judge ALL hispanic people based on the few that you know. b. We may not be able to control our president but folks are still hoping the border to get here, so it must not be that big of a deal. I guess my point on that would be that no matter how fucked up our government is, we're still not living in a shit hole like Mexico. c. About the fix your own country bit, it may be flaky but it's better than just running to the neighboring country and living there. They can sit there and do nothing to their crappy country, it's irrelevent. The point is you can't just commit a felony by coming to America then think that just because you live in a 3rd world country it's an excuse. 3. I was not saying all illegal immigrants are lazy. I said there is a difference between wanting to work, the right way and sitting on your sorry ass and asking for a handout just because you live in a crappy country. [I don't even get the insult you were attempting on your number 5, your second number 5 at that.] :? 4. Sigh* I did not say they should sit on their ass and rot. What I said, which you misinterpreted, was that if they can't help themselves, legally, they can fucking rot. You're using personally examples at that which don't mean diddly in the long run does it. Cause though there are some who work their asses off and some who sit around taking handouts and being leeches. Common denominator: illegal, no matter what you're doing. Thats the point. 5. I've broken the law, never any felonys and none recently, as if that's an excuse. Like we should let it all go cause everyones comitted a crime. Were you serious with that comment I didn't think so. 6. You may be right you never said anything about race, I just made an assumption. And what the fuck are you going to do about it if I accrording to you "never dont put words in my quotes, again?" What are you going to fucking do about it, I would love to know. Idle. Since we're on the subject........well nevermind, I've got somewhere to go so I gotta wrap this shit up. Im sure it was an accident about the double negative anyhow. 7. "Anyone who comes here illegaly is illegal" such a simple discovery yet everyone seems to have such a hard time accepting it. 8. I LIVE in England I'm in America. my house and all that shit are in England Im in America as I write this. Overgolorified........well, I could go the bitch route as you did and say, I never said that, don't put words in my mouth, bitch bitch bitch, cry cry cry. Just as you assumed that i'm not experiencing shit. 9. I'd rather be a fat ass then a fucking jerk insulting everything and everyone just cause you know they can't do anything about it through a screen. I swear like 90% of your comments are insulting in some manner, you're an asshole. At least I can change my weight, how easily can you change your asshole DNA. Get Bent asshole and learn to actually talk rather than give your "I am always right" opinion with an insult tagged on. Thank you, sir.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 13:57
uh wen i get off work ill get bent k? and yes im ALWAYS right hahahahaha ill be back with my bits on your utter utter "ridiculous" posts o and im stupid eh?
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 15:55
uh wen i get off work ill get bent k? and yes im ALWAYS right hahahahaha ill be back with my bits on your utter utter "ridiculous" posts o and im stupid eh? Don't bother, i'm getting bored of this and we're not going to agree on anything. SO don't even waste your time.
b4uizmeSalvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 18:09
Verticalkiller 2 Mexican 0 Sorry thats the way I C It =)
tgd_02Salvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 21:15
Verticalkiller 2 Mexican 0 Sorry thats the way I C It =) good thing someone asked for your opinon.... o wait...... MEXICAN MUAHAHAH rather be mexican that white thats for sure :wink:
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 21:49
Verticalkiller 2 Mexican 0 Sorry thats the way I C It =) COUNT IT!!! :D
VanguardSalvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 21:50
KEKEKE KOREAN!
tgd_02Salvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 22:05
9. I'd rather be a fat ass then a fucking jerk insulting everything and everyone just cause you know they can't do anything about it through a screen. I swear like 90% of your comments are insulting in some manner, you're an asshole. At least I can change my weight, how easily can you change your asshole DNA. no shit fuckwad and wow ty youve ben reading my posts eh? i skip through all of yours hahahaha fat bitch! hahahahahaha
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive30 Jun 2006, 22:55
9. I'd rather be a fat ass then a fucking jerk insulting everything and everyone just cause you know they can't do anything about it through a screen. I swear like 90% of your comments are insulting in some manner, you're an asshole. At least I can change my weight, how easily can you change your asshole DNA. no shit fuckwad and wow ty youve ben reading my posts eh? i skip through all of yours hahahaha fat bitch! hahahahahaha You're a coward. That's all I have to say.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 13:14
9. I'd rather be a fat ass then a fucking jerk insulting everything and everyone just cause you know they can't do anything about it through a screen. I swear like 90% of your comments are insulting in some manner, you're an asshole. At least I can change my weight, how easily can you change your asshole DNA. no shit fuckwad and wow ty youve ben reading my posts eh? i skip through all of yours hahahaha fat bitch! hahahahahaha You're a coward. That's all I have to say. you did this onto me and now im doing it onto you you did this onto me and now im doing it onto you you did this onto me and now im doing it onto you you did this onto ME YOU DID THIS ONTO ME YOU DID THIS ONTO ME YOU DID THIS ONTO ME man wata great song- WOOOOT COWARD COWARD COWARD COWARD IMMIGRANT COWARD HERE TO STEAL THE WHITE MANS MONEY ANd RAPE THE BLACK MANS BITCHES WOOOOOOOOOT!
That DudeSalvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 14:44
9. I'd rather be a fat ass then a fucking jerk insulting everything and everyone just cause you know they can't do anything about it through a screen. I swear like 90% of your comments are insulting in some manner, you're an asshole. At least I can change my weight, how easily can you change your asshole DNA. no shit fuckwad and wow ty youve ben reading my posts eh? i skip through all of yours hahahaha fat bitch! hahahahahaha You're a coward. That's all I have to say. I've just noticed that almost every hispanic for "immigration rights" argues like a Scientologist when it comes to trying to defend their stance. IE They have no idea what the hell they are defending, but they know they have to keep insulting other people and stifling them in order to win. It's either through childish put-downs or threats of violence. Stop wasting your energy, VK.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 16:00
I've just noticed that almost every hispanic for "immigration rights" argues like a Scientologist when it comes to trying to defend their stance. IE They have no idea what the hell they are defending, but they know they have to keep insulting other people and stifling them in order to win. It's either through childish put-downs or threats of violence. Stop wasting your energy, VK. Why do you think I haven't been saying much more myself....waste of time. I've stated all the facts myself along with others, but facts apparently have little value to a pro-illegal alien person. So aye it's a fair waste of time now, VK. Tgd, are you ever going to get the sand out of your vagina? :lol:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 16:26
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 16:29
9. I'd rather be a fat ass then a fucking jerk insulting everything and everyone just cause you know they can't do anything about it through a screen. I swear like 90% of your comments are insulting in some manner, you're an asshole. At least I can change my weight, how easily can you change your asshole DNA. no shit fuckwad and wow ty youve ben reading my posts eh? i skip through all of yours hahahaha fat bitch! hahahahahaha You're a coward. That's all I have to say. I've just noticed that almost every hispanic for "immigration rights" argues like a Scientologist when it comes to trying to defend their stance. IE They have no idea what the hell they are defending, but they know they have to keep insulting other people and stifling them in order to win. It's either through childish put-downs or threats of violence. Stop wasting your energy, VK. speaks teh uber pwnere of teh intrenet yes vk dont waste your precious time O THE WASTE OF TIME!! *tear
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 16:50
I think you guys are right.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 19:09
course they are
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 21:09
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 23:06
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol:
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 23:32
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol: I forgive you, Tgd. I know that sand in your vagina is causing you to act like you have PMS constantly. Maybe....just maybe...someday you will be able to douche every last grain out and be a normal person. You'll just have to try to control it for now. :o :lol: :twisted:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 23:37
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol: I forgive you, Tgd. I know that sand in your vagina is causing you to act like you have PMS constantly. Maybe....just maybe...someday you will be able to douche every last grain out and be a normal person. You'll just have to try to control it for now. :o :lol: :twisted: the muffling! o wait thats you trying to talk through your ass, please remove it, ty!
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 23:42
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol: I forgive you, Tgd. I know that sand in your vagina is causing you to act like you have PMS constantly. Maybe....just maybe...someday you will be able to douche every last grain out and be a normal person. You'll just have to try to control it for now. :o :lol: :twisted: the muffling! o wait thats you trying to talk through your ass, please remove it, ty! No Tgd, that's the sound of a sandy vagina..it's a known symptom of vaginal sand syndrome. I'm sorry it had to be you. Give my best to your family and hopes for a speedy recovery. :lol:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 23:43
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol: I forgive you, Tgd. I know that sand in your vagina is causing you to act like you have PMS constantly. Maybe....just maybe...someday you will be able to douche every last grain out and be a normal person. You'll just have to try to control it for now. :o :lol: :twisted: the muffling! o wait thats you trying to talk through your ass, please remove it, ty! No Tgd, that's the sound of a sandy vagina..it's a known symptom of vaginal sand syndrome. I'm sorry it had to be you. Give my best to your family and hopes for a speedy recovery. :lol: you hear through your vagina? idk i dont have one, guess you know from experience eh? muffling!!!
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 23:49
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol: I forgive you, Tgd. I know that sand in your vagina is causing you to act like you have PMS constantly. Maybe....just maybe...someday you will be able to douche every last grain out and be a normal person. You'll just have to try to control it for now. :o :lol: :twisted: the muffling! o wait thats you trying to talk through your ass, please remove it, ty! No Tgd, that's the sound of a sandy vagina..it's a known symptom of vaginal sand syndrome. I'm sorry it had to be you. Give my best to your family and hopes for a speedy recovery. :lol: you hear through your vagina? idk i dont have one, guess you know from experience eh? muffling!!! I'm sorry Tgd, denial is another symptom of a little sand in your vagina. People like me are immune to sandy vagina syndrome. Enough of the sandy vagina. It's a South Park reference. :lol:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive1 Jul 2006, 23:50
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol: I forgive you, Tgd. I know that sand in your vagina is causing you to act like you have PMS constantly. Maybe....just maybe...someday you will be able to douche every last grain out and be a normal person. You'll just have to try to control it for now. :o :lol: :twisted: the muffling! o wait thats you trying to talk through your ass, please remove it, ty! No Tgd, that's the sound of a sandy vagina..it's a known symptom of vaginal sand syndrome. I'm sorry it had to be you. Give my best to your family and hopes for a speedy recovery. :lol: you hear through your vagina? idk i dont have one, guess you know from experience eh? muffling!!! I'm sorry Tgd, denial is another symptom of a little sand in your vagina. People like me are immune to sandy vagina syndrome. Enough of the sandy vagina. It's a South Park reference. :lol: no shit sherlock, but all in all head out ur ass and ull breathe better goodnie
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive2 Jul 2006, 00:34
KILL THE HISPANICS RUNING THIS COUNTRY! ask your mom to wash her mouth out before kissing you again EC Damn Tgd, your going to really have to get that sand out of your vagina or your going to explode eventually. :shock: :lol: :lol: when you plow a crowbar into your asshole to find your head, ill help myself :roll: :wink: :D :lol: I forgive you, Tgd. I know that sand in your vagina is causing you to act like you have PMS constantly. Maybe....just maybe...someday you will be able to douche every last grain out and be a normal person. You'll just have to try to control it for now. :o :lol: :twisted: the muffling! o wait thats you trying to talk through your ass, please remove it, ty! No Tgd, that's the sound of a sandy vagina..it's a known symptom of vaginal sand syndrome. I'm sorry it had to be you. Give my best to your family and hopes for a speedy recovery. :lol: you hear through your vagina? idk i dont have one, guess you know from experience eh? muffling!!! I'm sorry Tgd, denial is another symptom of a little sand in your vagina. People like me are immune to sandy vagina syndrome. Enough of the sandy vagina. It's a South Park reference. :lol: no shit sherlock, but all in all head out ur ass and ull breathe better goodnie My head is own straight as an arrow. http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/o/pott2613/WTF/tgdsgirl.jpg http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/o/pott2613/WTF/tgduphisownass.jpg
tgd_02Salvaged from archive2 Jul 2006, 01:04
o so now its my head eh? haha im done with you little girl go to bed now before daddy gives you a hell of a dick insertion again, and please dont post pictures of your mom, she has feelings too, regardless of her appearance ty! http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/tgd_02/Packmann43d… http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c184/tgd_02/homie.jpg
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive2 Jul 2006, 01:27
I think you have your ass on backwards which makes it easier for insertion. http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/o/pott2613/WTF/bellybutt.jpg That wasn't my mom fortunately. I did manage to catch a picture of yours...though it burned my eyes. http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/o/pott2613/WTF/biggirl.jpg
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive2 Jul 2006, 01:29
What was the topic again?
TaurinoSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 02:34
I'm bringing back this thread from the grave because TGD pawned captn crunch in this thread. Lawlz and I missed out on this juicy convo.
BorroSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 02:38
What's up with fuckin refried beans? That shit is just nasty.
TaurinoSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 02:42
What's up with fuckin refried beans? That shit is just nasty. mang there's different types of refried beans, some of that is not A ok....
RaidenatorSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 02:43
What's up with fuckin refried beans? That shit is just nasty. Srsly. It's like, why would you need to fry them again?
BorroSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 02:43
Ack !!!! U mean it get worse than smashed pinto beans?
BorroSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 02:45
I'm in the south and we make "soup beans". It's pinto beans cooked slowly in water with a big chunk of "fat back". It's like they make that, eat it for a few days, and then smash it up like mashed potatoes to throw on a burrito....fuckin yuck yo.
BorroSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 02:46
btw soup bean, corn bread, and chow chow is teh shiznitz.
UncoverRealitySalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 04:29
People must be seriously bored if they are digging up this thread.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 04:31
^^^I was going to say that.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 06:40
^^^^^This was a GOOD thread back in the day. Classic posts by a lot of good people who no longer are here. The past can teach us much....Read and learn, People.
HeyBuddySalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 07:22
I saw the name of the thread, and already knew my response before clicking it. Here you go: KEYWORD = ILLEGAL
MontysDoubleSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 07:41
^^^ In place of rep I can't give you now, I'll postwhore myself one closer to the big 2000. I agree 100% Buddy, I don't have anything to add.
TaurinoSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 09:52
^^^ In place of rep I can't give you now, I'll postwhore myself one closer to the big 2000. I agree 100% Buddy, I don't have anything to add. Illlegal huh? Let he without sin cast the first stone. And that's what I have to say about that.
HeyBuddySalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 11:01
ILLEGAL
BorroSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 11:06
Can we re-name "Mexican Jumping Beans" to "Mexican Border Jumping Beaners"?
TaurinoSalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 14:31
ILLEGAL You're illegal, the U.S people have done so much shit and the still fail to own up to all the shit they've done. I could go on, but alot of you will just be in denial. Like I said, he without sin cast the first stone.
HeyBuddySalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 14:41
You're illegal, the U.S people have done so much shit and the still fail to own up to all the shit they've done. I could go on, but alot of you will just be in denial. Like I said, he without sin cast the first stone. <---Native American (Indian) :40:
HeyBuddySalvaged from archive6 Nov 2007, 22:27
We've had these discussion so many times, and I hate to rehash things. So here's something on the issue that nobody is talking about. When immigrants enter the country illegaly, we don't have a chance to check them for communicable diseases. Many of these diseases haven't historically been a problem in the US. Chagas: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-chagas6nov06,0,54… HIV subtype B (from Haitian immigrants in the late 60's - early 70's): http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedi… cubs_util Tuberculosis (making a comeback to the US): http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/homeland.php?id=1385065 If people would enter the country lawfully, we would be aware of most of these diseases ahead of time. As it is, we tend to get blind-sided by an outbreak, such as Chagas, which has forced us to divert resources to battling a disease that didn't exist here, but is now spreading.
brownbearclanSalvaged from archive7 Nov 2007, 16:44
I'm bringing back this thread from the grave because TGD pawned captn crunch in this thread. Lawlz and I missed out on this juicy convo. Yeah...only by about 2 years lol.
ceehound619Salvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 19:29
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x164/ceehound619/Speak… [/B]
Clouds in the SkySalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 19:33
I wanna be a fucking dirty mexican, they're fuckin' relentless. I'm purchasing a donkey off e-bay as we speak!
BorroSalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 19:33
Your trying to buy some ass?
Clouds in the SkySalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 19:35
Indeed, fuck them Johns... I'm the new John.
BorroSalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 21:31
Your trying to buy some ass? Where's the fuckin grammar nazis????
FireballSalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 21:59
Where's the fuckin grammar nazis???? OMG BORRO, it's supposed to be you're not your...fuckin douche. Happy? :xyxthumbs:
HeyBuddySalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 22:03
Why are we signalling out Mexican illegal immigrants. What about the OTM's (other than mexican). We've got illegal immigrants crossing the Mexican border from the middle east. That's fucked up. PS - Borro's my bitch.
BorroSalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 22:09
OMG BORRO, it's supposed to be you're not your...fuckin douche. Happy? :xyxthumbs: Yep, it had to be done. :omg:
BorroSalvaged from archive10 Nov 2007, 22:10
PS - Borro's my bitch. Eat shit yankee cunt. :angry-smiley-056:
MontysDoubleSalvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 00:41
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w112/communistkj/civil… It's on! :D
BorroSalvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 02:33
The flag on the right is sooo purdy.
cheese muffinSalvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 11:26
I'm divided on this issue. On one hand Illegal Immigrants take away from law abiding citizens. On the other, who else are we gonna get to do the jobs no one else wants? idk. just stay the fuck off my lawn.
HeyBuddySalvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 11:34
I'm divided on this issue. On one hand Illegal Immigrants take away from law abiding citizens. On the other, who else are we gonna get to do the jobs no one else wants? idk. just stay the fuck off my lawn. Around my area, they do the same jobs that lot of legal Americans do. They are in manufacturing. As far as the classic examples of tomato picking, etc. All you have to do is a little bit of math. Let's say you paid me $20 / hour to pick them. I could probably pick 200 / hour. So my labor added $0.10 to a tomato. Big whoop. Not to mention, you've added a good paying job to the economy. That person would be taxed at about 35% also, which could help reduce the deficit. I'd pay $0.10 more per tomato. My point is, that this "jobs nobody else wants to do" argument is bogus. I'm sure we could get high school kids during the summer to pick tomatos and do yard work for $10/hour. Problem solved. Next argument please.
TaurinoSalvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 11:46
Around my area, they do the same jobs that lot of legal Americans do. They are in manufacturing. As far as the classic examples of tomato picking, etc. All you have to do is a little bit of math. Let's say you paid me $20 / hour to pick them. I could probably pick 200 / hour. So my labor added $0.10 to a tomato. Big whoop. Not to mention, you've added a good paying job to the economy. That person would be taxed at about 35% also, which could help reduce the deficit. I'd pay $0.10 more per tomato. My point is, that this "jobs nobody else wants to do" argument is bogus. I'm sure we could get high school kids during the summer to pick tomatos and do yard work for $10/hour. Problem solved. Next argument please. High school kids that will work out int he hot summer picking tomatoes? Lmfao that's funny. And like I said, most employers require Tax payers ID numbers so that those illegals will pay taxes.
RaidenatorSalvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 12:26
High school kids that will work out int he hot summer picking tomatoes? Lmfao that's funny. And like I said, most employers require Tax payers ID numbers so that those illegals will pay taxes. They took our jobs! 40U063Oh83c
ceehound619Salvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 15:29
Around my area, they do the same jobs that lot of legal Americans do. They are in manufacturing. As far as the classic examples of tomato picking, etc. All you have to do is a little bit of math. Let's say you paid me $20 / hour to pick them. I could probably pick 200 / hour. So my labor added $0.10 to a tomato. Big whoop. Not to mention, you've added a good paying job to the economy. That person would be taxed at about 35% also, which could help reduce the deficit. I'd pay $0.10 more per tomato. My point is, that this "jobs nobody else wants to do" argument is bogus. I'm sure we could get high school kids during the summer to pick tomatos and do yard work for $10/hour. Problem solved. Next argument please. HAVE to disagree.... no american kids are going to pick tomatoes... most of them are too god damn lazy to get their asses off the couch and away from mtv/video games..... now..... we could make PRISONERS pick the tomatoes..... that might be a whole different discussion.
jabaSalvaged from archive11 Nov 2007, 15:45
HAVE to disagree.... no american kids are going to pick tomatoes... most of them are too god damn lazy to get their asses off the couch and away from mtv/video games..... now..... we could make PRISONERS pick the tomatoes..... that might be a whole different discussion.Shouldn't you be in prison? When you came into this forum you were bragging about killing people you stupid 'badass' cunt. I hope you don't think you are above and beyond the clutches of fucking justice - unless you were telling fibs of course. If I was picking tomatoes as a prisoner I would wipe every last one of them on my arse for good measure! :angry-smiley-056:

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