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Rick O,shae Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 06:43 · [Salvaged from Archive] SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS IT TIME TO BRING OUR BOYS HOME! Over 1,000 of them have lost there lives in a war no one is going to win ? lets get out so thay can have there civil war we all know that that is whats going to happan . My son is out there at the moment three more months to go with gods will he will come home safe and well . Bring the boys home
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 08:51 · [Salvaged from Archive] I pray your son comes home safe Rick! But pulling out is the wrong thing to do! There will never be any number of Iraqi's worth one Americans life but, no matter what, it was time we started fighting terrorism and Iraq was the starting point. Sadly it will be years before we can pull out in major numbers and we will always have military bases there. I feel the pain and worry of having a son there, but a complete pull-out is not the answer.
Rick O,shae Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 09:22 · [Salvaged from Archive] Sarge thanks for your prayers . but i cant stop thinking that we are only makeing things worse . So when do we leave 1year ,5 years 10years or 5,000 , 10,000, 25,000, or like in "NAM" when the death toll is over 50,000
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 10:45 · [Salvaged from Archive] I don't think we will ever leave to be honest. Iraq will be a major military base for us in the middle east for years to come. As for when we will stop our patrols and cut back our military efforts, I believe that depends on the Iragi's themselves. And to be honest I think they want us to climb inside our bases as soon as we can. But they have to be able to defend themselves before we can stand down.
jedi_soccer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 14:55 · [Salvaged from Archive] I agree with Sarge. The Americans have stayed so long and put a lot into it. If they are to back out now it wouldn't look good, which is probably why they stayed for so long in the first place. I am not expecting to see the Americans out of there in this life.
sonic 2 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 17:12 · [Salvaged from Archive] bushes next plan it to take over south east canada
Frenchfry Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 19:17 · [Salvaged from Archive] So what aobut looking good....if we were wrong then we were wrong...who cares about our image...we kinda already fucked it up...lets get outta there.
Overlord Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 19:36 · [Salvaged from Archive] The soldiers there now are just a negotation tactic to control the present forming government. 3 months after we took over the Guerilla war began and there's no way to win that without negotiations with both sides. But GWBushes "cowboy swaggering" is just making it worse. The Dems want to say everything is total ruined and we should back out which is ridiculous. And the Repubs say we should "be patient" until we win (which is never without an actual standing enemy army to fight) which is stupid also. The "two party government" needs to quit bickering and figure out how to bring our people home without giving Iraq away. And that's going to take some real work from BOTH sides. And I don't think they've got it.
sonic 2 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 20:44 · [Salvaged from Archive] when dose he leave office?
jedi_soccer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 21:30 · [Salvaged from Archive] bushes next plan it to take over south east canada the funny thing is that is probably true...you can never know what americans are going to do but you know they love imperialism
sonic 2 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Nov 2005, 22:06 · [Salvaged from Archive] alaska is HUMUNGAS and it only cost like 34 A SQUAR MILE the russians sold it to us didn't they
jedi_soccer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 1 Dec 2005, 15:29 · [Salvaged from Archive] yeah they sold it to you, and then there was the whole canada america border thing, no one cared bout it till they found oil and shit up there and u guys wanted a border much more easttern
sonic 2 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 1 Dec 2005, 16:29 · [Salvaged from Archive] there is so much oil there to bad we cant get to it
jedi_soccer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 2 Dec 2005, 15:51 · [Salvaged from Archive] yeah damn ice, theres alot of oil on the canadian part, yukon
sonic 2 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 2 Dec 2005, 16:21 · [Salvaged from Archive] hey when dose the next president come and please god not darth vader that is the vps nickname he was the one that wanted to go get the oil in iraq
godschild Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 2 Dec 2005, 23:19 · [Salvaged from Archive] It has got off topic in here but back to the original question. I dont see any way to bring them home when we still have iran and syria to deal with? Iran openly hates us and supports terrorist groups against us and two faced syria would shake our hand and stab us in the back. Just because President Bush is incompetant and surrounds himself with idealistic people who "Fucked Up Iraq" does not change our war against these perverse fucks. We have been at war with radical islamist since 1948 when Israel was givin back to the Israel's. 9/11 is the battle that finally opened the american publics eyes to how dangerous this war is becoming. It is a shame that This administrations incompete handling of a neccesarry action has weakened the will of many people around the world to stand up to these people once and for all. !!God save our Troops!! But right now they are doing a small part of the work to come. If we dont stand behind them we will die behind them.
Overlord Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Dec 2005, 23:27 · [Salvaged from Archive] We've been at war with radical Islamic Terrorism ever since we started buying their damn oil by the billions. If you want do something for our boys over there dying and stop this bullshit then sell your pickup truck and SUVs and go buy something electric, hybrid or that gets 30+ mpg. Then the Shah's and the Saudi Royal Families won't get rich and the mid east can go back to being the dustbowl it was 200 years ago when no one gave a shit about it except the camels and the beduins. Everyone wants to jump on the Globalization bandwagon and it works great when you've got first rate countries and modern democracies in place. But when you trade with a third world dictatorship and pour millions of dollars into a mostly illiterate, impoverished nation that believes whatever the monarch wants you to believe, well what do you expect? Giving Democracy to Iraq is a mistake. The people are not ready to start reading newspapers and shopping at Walmart. They're more interested in killing each other and hating the Jews.
godschild Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Dec 2005, 14:42 · [Salvaged from Archive] I partly disagree Overlord. No terrorist group has ever claimed to attack over oil. The oil in the middle east is our interest yes, but that is not why we are attacked. Do you really think all terrorist attacks would stop if we quit driving cars, heating our homes and powering our industries? You need to read your history better. Every major empire for the last 8000 years have been involved with the middle east. And on a side note, you can't give someone democracy, they have to fight for it, which some Iraqes are now starting to do.
onetyme Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 17 Dec 2005, 20:15 · [Salvaged from Archive] bush, that racist fuck He lied about the WMD'S (weapons of mass destruction) Just to find a excuse to gain his profits from the citizens of his own country by selling the oil he is investing from iraq... he lays off lives for his own wealth and to live lavishly. fight the war to get bush off the stands unite as one and march the fuck down to DC and get bush's ass out of the white house Bring the fucking Boys back home!
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 06:11 · [Salvaged from Archive] I partly disagree Overlord. No terrorist group has ever claimed to attack over oil. The oil in the middle east is our interest yes, but that is not why we are attacked. Do you really think all terrorist attacks would stop if we quit driving cars, heating our homes and powering our industries? You need to read your history better. Every major empire for the last 8000 years have been involved with the middle east. And on a side note, you can't give someone democracy, they have to fight for it, which some Iraqes are now starting to do. Well it is true that the Middle East was involved with major empires starting 8000 years ago, but it wasnât until 4000 years ago that there was any kind of conflict. It actually started between the 2 sons of Abraham, Ishmael and Issic. Ishmael was the founder of Arabs which descended from him, while Jews are the decedents of Issic. Both fought over the Holy Land. Arabs, and later on Muslims, said it was their land and Jews said it was theirs. Hence the Arab-Israel conflict. The U.S, which is a predominantly and Christian country, along with some European countries decided to side with the Jews on this issue and support them to take over Palestine in 1948. Even though Christians see Jerusalem as theirs (âCity of Davidâ). And to this day the U.S still supports Israel, hence the Arab-U.S conflict. That was just a very brief history there. If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. We all know that that will never happen since the solution seems impractical for both sides. I guess this conflict and hate will always be there no matter what.
godschild Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 07:39 · [Salvaged from Archive] Damn Hails!! LMFAO That is a "Great American President"
godschild Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Dec 2005, 07:58 · [Salvaged from Archive] CHEB wrote That was just a very brief history there. If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. We all know that that will never happen since the solution seems impractical for both sides. I guess this conflict and hate will always be there no matter what.[/quote] Still only partly agree. If we did leave the middle east alone and just stay in our hemispere then after islamic facist wiped out Isreal, they would continue west through Europe and onto our shores. As you stated this war goes back a long long time and won't end just because we leave their land. "I guess this conflict and hate will always be there no matter what" Now that is a statement I can totally agree with.
Pimp On Tuesday Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 03:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] The soldiers there now are just a negotation tactic to control the present forming government. 3 months after we took over the Guerilla war began and there's no way to win that without negotiations with both sides. But GWBushes "cowboy swaggering" is just making it worse. The Dems want to say everything is total ruined and we should back out which is ridiculous. And the Repubs say we should "be patient" until we win (which is never without an actual standing enemy army to fight) which is stupid also. The "two party government" needs to quit bickering and figure out how to bring our people home without giving Iraq away. And that's going to take some real work from BOTH sides. And I don't think they've got it. DAMN..WELL SAID!!
Pimp On Tuesday Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 03:57 · [Salvaged from Archive] I have noticed..most everyone in here is pretty damn smart..& not all bullshit like my other forum site..LIL over there its jus a bunch of ignorant fools I like this site!!
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 04:23 · [Salvaged from Archive] If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. The day the U.S. stops supporting Isreal is the day I move to Isreal and start killing the Anti-Isreali terrorists myself. I figure when my beloved country, the good ole'USofA turn's it's back on God's chosen people, then that's the day I side with God and not my country. I love America, but I fear God's wrath more and guess what, I would die for my God because I love him, not for 70 virgins! Abraham screwed up when he lost his patience waiting on God for a son. Thus we have Ishmael and our Arab terrorist friends. We will never be rid of the "hate" between Jew/Christian and Muslims. This war will always exist. I pray America will always stand with Isreal!
Pimp On Tuesday Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 04:26 · [Salvaged from Archive] If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. The day the U.S. stops supporting Isreal is the day I move to Isreal and start killing the Anti-Isreali terrorists myself. I figure when my beloved country, the good ole'USofA turn's it's back on God's chosen people, then that's the day I side with God and not my country. I love America, but I fear God's wrath more and guess what, I would die for my God because I love him, not for 70 virgins! Abraham screwed up when he lost his patience waiting on God for a son. Thus we have Ishmael and our Arab terrorist friends. We will never be rid of the "hate" between Jew/Christian and Muslims. This war will always exist. I pray America will always stand with Isreal! You know the more I see of this place the more I like it..well said & sounds like your a great guy!! & i agree..If they did I would move out of this place 8)
Grimmancer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 15:29 · [Salvaged from Archive] Your Damn right Sarge! And I pray everyday that our boys come home. Hell I praayed everyday I would make it home and I did thank the lord but it really drives me nuts to see kids and people who have only known freedom, who have always lived with the protection our laws and the freedom our boys provide and who have make thier decisions based upon what the media says, and all the anti Bush propaganda... We can not pull out it would be one of the biggest mistakes we have ever made... It was because we pulled out of Afganastan that make it what it is today, and one main reason they hate us, we were allies against the USSR but then turned our backs on them, letting the Warlords take over. It was because of Pres Carter in the 70s that made Iran the way iy is today, he pulled the CIA and the support from the King and as soon as we did that the Mullahs took over and then took our people for over a year. What most western people dont undersatand that the Mid east culture is not like ours at all, they dont believe in handshakes or treaties, any treaties only means that you wont oppose them in the open but behind closed doors anything goes... thier respect for any non Muslem is lower then a dogs... they only respect strength and control... not charity or kind words... They kill their own children for no better reason then talking to a man or talking to rival family... In Saudi they actually opened fired on the teen age girls because they were running from their school when it was on fire, and they did not cover their faces...so the police shot them.. it is a different culture and for the people who been born with silver spoons and collage degrees and freedom in their corner should first go there and live they way those people are forced to live before they say being there is wrong... I know in my heart it is the right thing to do... Stand fast, Back straight, Become what our forefathers were... men of valor
Merrillizer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 30 Dec 2005, 16:13 · [Salvaged from Archive] Abraham had a legitimate son, Isaac. Some verses say he had only one, others say 2. The day we change our lop-sided foreign policies that favor Israel, is the day I stand up and clap. Israel is not my "gallant little ally". They have sold secret weapons and defense systems that we gave them to Communist China....which is no surprise, considering Communism was an invention of the Jewish mind (ie: see Karl Marx, Marxism, Bolshevism). Israel also has 100 times the amount of "weapons of mass destruction", including plenty of nuclear capability, than all Arab countries COMBINED. Israel has also broken 10 times the amount of U.N. sanctions and regulations, FOR 5 TIMES AS LONG, yet nobody says a peep. Why is this not shown to the unsuspecting people of America? Because anyone who speaks out against organized Jewry is immediately branded and crucified (ie: see Jesus Christ). Jesus himself rebelled against Jewish Temple rule, and he was put to death for it. And till this day, anyone not buying into the hype, and anyone not on their "team", is "crucified", however not in such an extreme manner, but by way of slander and personal attacks. All these Middle Eastern religions are the DISEASE, radical Islam is merely one symptom. Humanity lived and prospered "B.C.", without all these Middle Eastern fables and fairytales. We surely can survive "A.D." without them. And if you think the Quran is bad, read the Talmud. It tells us that Jews are above all, and Gentiles are human beasts, and only created in human form to serve the Jew day and night. I am a Gentile, and I am "Goyim", and I take personal offense to that. These are the types of radical beliefs that eminate from the Middle East.
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Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 00:04 · [Salvaged from Archive] If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. The day the U.S. stops supporting Isreal is the day I move to Isreal and start killing the Anti-Isreali terrorists myself. I figure when my beloved country, the good ole'USofA turn's it's back on God's chosen people, then that's the day I side with God and not my country. I love America, but I fear God's wrath more and guess what, I would die for my God because I love him, not for 70 virgins! Abraham screwed up when he lost his patience waiting on God for a son. Thus we have Ishmael and our Arab terrorist friends. We will never be rid of the "hate" between Jew/Christian and Muslims. This war will always exist. I pray America will always stand with Isreal! Well let me tell you this, if someone is dying for the 72 virgins and not in the name of God, he does not go to heaven. Your actions are also judged by your intentions. "Arab terrorist friends". Yet you claim not to be a racist. I guess that makes you a hypocrite too.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 09:45 · [Salvaged from Archive] Well let me tell you this, if someone is dying for the 72 virgins and not in the name of God, he does not go to heaven. Your actions are also judged by your intentions. "Arab terrorist friends". Yet you claim not to be a racist. I guess that makes you a hypocrite too. "Arab terrorist friends" is called a "sarcastic" statement. Thanks for reminding me that I should have explained it for those out there not smart enough to pick that up! :lol: Me a Racist? hmmm... that was a pitiful attempt at turning my statement around.. You can do better than that Cheb... I feel silly... I actually gave Cheb more credit than he deserved.... As for your "dieing for God" statement. If you believe suicide to kill as many of a paticular race or religion is of God, then you should maybe check to see which God it is your serving. It doesn't sound like a Peaceful or Loving God to me. Would I die to "defend" my God.. you bet your "sand lovin ass" I would! Would I go running into a group of innocent, hell for that matter would I go running into a group of soldiers of the enemy, with a shitload of C4 strapped to my ass yelling "Allah Akbar" and believe it was in defense of God... your fuckin nuts... no sane person would believe that their God would want them to commit suicide for his defense. Now, would I stand in defense of my God and shoot stupid C4 strapped dumbass's between the eye's... ALL FUCKING DAY LONG! Does that make me a racist.... if you want to believe it does Cheb... then you go right ahead and believe it... Just remember if your the one with the C4 strapped to your ass and you coming running at me... when you end wherever it is you end up... that Sarge was right, there's not any fucking virgin's!
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 09:59 · [Salvaged from Archive] Abraham had a legitimate son, Isaac. Some verses say he had only one, others say 2. I know I don't need to say your correct.. but, your correct! :P The day we change our lop-sided foreign policies that favor Israel, is the day I stand up and clap. Israel is not my "gallant little ally". They have sold secret weapons and defense systems that we gave them to Communist China....which is no surprise, considering Communism was an invention of the Jewish mind (ie: see Karl Marx, Marxism, Bolshevism). You don't think the USA is any better do you? Who the hell think created the Saddam monster? Israel also has 100 times the amount of "weapons of mass destruction", including plenty of nuclear capability, than all Arab countries COMBINED. Which is why I have alway said.. we should stand back and let Isreal take care of the "Radical" anti-Isreali problom themselves. It would be over in a few days. Israel has also broken 10 times the amount of U.N. sanctions and regulations, FOR 5 TIMES AS LONG, yet nobody says a peep. Why is this not shown to the unsuspecting people of America? Because anyone who speaks out against organized Jewry is immediately branded and crucified (ie: see Jesus Christ). Jesus himself rebelled against Jewish Temple rule, and he was put to death for it. And till this day, anyone not buying into the hype, and anyone not on their "team", is "crucified", however not in such an extreme manner, but by way of slander and personal attacks. I am sure Isreal is no innocent country. Nor do I believe the US is completely innocent. But I do believe in the USA's overall philosophies and beliefs just as I do in Isreal's. All these Middle Eastern religions are the DISEASE, radical Islam is merely one symptom. Humanity lived and prospered "B.C.", without all these Middle Eastern fables and fairytales. We surely can survive "A.D." without them. Merrillizer, that's an researched statement. And if you think the Quran is bad, read the Talmud. It tells us that Jews are above all, and Gentiles are human beasts, and only created in human form to serve the Jew day and night. I am a Gentile, and I am "Goyim", and I take personal offense to that. These are the types of radical beliefs that eminate from the Middle East. The Quran is not bad... nor is the Talmud or the Bible... it's the interpretation that ends up being bad.
Grimmancer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 10:06 · [Salvaged from Archive] you didnt quote me sarge I feel... left out now :(:(:( ~goes and cries in corner~ ;)
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 31 Dec 2005, 10:20 · [Salvaged from Archive] you didnt quote me sarge I feel... left out now :(:(:( ~goes and cries in corner~ ;) Hard to quote those pictures! Which BTW I did enjoy! :lol:
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 2 Jan 2006, 01:02 · [Salvaged from Archive] Well let me tell you this, if someone is dying for the 72 virgins and not in the name of God, he does not go to heaven. Your actions are also judged by your intentions. "Arab terrorist friends". Yet you claim not to be a racist. I guess that makes you a hypocrite too. "Arab terrorist friends" is called a "sarcastic" statement. Thanks for reminding me that I should have explained it for those out there not smart enough to pick that up! :lol: . Well Sarge maybe you should know that sarcastic statements can also be racist statements. There are some other comments you made here that don't stray too far from racism but I didnât comment about that because I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Me a Racist? hmmm... that was a pitiful attempt at turning my statement around.. You can do better than that Cheb... I feel silly... I actually gave Cheb more credit than he deserved.... Actually I was just showing how you claim to be scared of God's wrath and how you love God, yet you seem to have racist and hypocritical characteristics that God will likely not approve of. Anyway I guess I should give you the benefit of the doubt again since you think that what you said wasnât racist. After all, our actions are judged by our intentions. Just telling you how I see it. As for your "dieing for God" statement. If you believe suicide to kill as many of a paticular race or religion is of God, then you should maybe check to see which God it is your serving. It doesn't sound like a Peaceful or Loving God to me. As for my other statement, I was just pointing out that they don't give their lives in the name of 72 virgins they do it in the name of God. And notice I said "they". I did not say anything about what I believe. I am basically giving you their point of view. If that is not their intention then there would be no point to what they are doing. Would I die to "defend" my God.. you bet your "sand lovin ass" I would! Would I go running into a group of innocent, hell for that matter would I go running into a group of soldiers of the enemy, with a shitload of C4 strapped to my ass yelling "Allah Akbar" and believe it was in defense of God... your fuckin nuts... no sane person would believe that their God would want them to commit suicide for his defense. Well I never said anything about whether they are actually dying in the name of God or not. I just point out that that is what most of them believe. I also should point out that Americans, or the west for that matter, are not the only victims of the suicide bombers. Muslims are too. In Iraq people are killed in mosques even, just because they are of a different Muslim sect. There is no doubt that those bombers are brainwashed and made to believe that they are dying in the name of God. It is much more complicated than the 72 virgins that you keep mentioning. Now, would I stand in defense of my God and shoot stupid C4 strapped dumbass's between the eye's... ALL FUCKING DAY LONG! Does that make me a racist.... if you want to believe it does Cheb... then you go right ahead and believe it... Just remember if your the one with the C4 strapped to your ass and you coming running at me... when you end wherever it is you end up... that Sarge was right, there's not any fucking virgin's! It doesnt seem to me that self defense has anything to do with racism. I really dont know why you would even mention that. I still dont know what lead you to believe that I support suicide bombings. It seems to me that you jumped to conclusions based on your interpretation of Muslims. Just like any religion, in Islam there are things that are black and white, and then there are things that are grey. The grey area is where we might disagree.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 2 Jan 2006, 04:23 · [Salvaged from Archive] Well Sarge maybe you should know that sarcastic statements can also be racist statements. There are some other comments you made here that don't stray too far from racism but I didnât comment about that because I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Cheb your dead set on calling me a racist and for some reason that would be a victory for you. You think that if you can make me a racist then everything I say then becomes null and void which then eleminates me as a threat to your opinion. Well let me make this easy for you... I Hate everyone equally! LOL that make you feel better? Actually I was just showing how you claim to be scared of God's wrath and how you love God, yet you seem to have racist and hypocritical characteristics that God will likely not approve of. Anyway I guess I should give you the benefit of the doubt again since you think that what you said wasnât racist. After all, our actions are judged by our intentions. Just telling you how I see it. A slightly better attempt at turning it around, but again... failure... keep trying though.. you will eventually get it! As for my other statement, I was just pointing out that they don't give their lives in the name of 72 virgins they do it in the name of God. And notice I said "they". I did not say anything about what I believe. I am basically giving you their point of view. If that is not their intention then there would be no point to what they are doing. Why would you even try and defend them if your not for them? I certainly could care less about why they do it. All I care about is that they do it and that we will stop them. Your actions in defending them means your for them in my opinion and that makes you an enemy in my book. Well I never said anything about whether they are actually dying in the name of God or not. I just point out that that is what most of them believe. I also should point out that Americans, or the west for that matter, are not the only victims of the suicide bombers. Muslims are too. In Iraq people are killed in mosques even, just because they are of a different Muslim sect. There is no doubt that those bombers are brainwashed and made to believe that they are dying in the name of God. It is much more complicated than the 72 virgins that you keep mentioning. I agree that more than America are victims and I also am proud of my American boys over there not just dieing for my defense but for the victims all over the worlds defense, even when assholes like you don't. The 72 virgin reference is just so damn lame that I enjoy mentioning it, it reveals the stupidty behind which they stand. It doesnt seem to me that self defense has anything to do with racism. I really dont know why you would even mention that. I still dont know what lead you to believe that I support suicide bombings. It seems to me that you jumped to conclusions based on your interpretation of Muslims. Just like any religion, in Islam there are things that are black and white, and then there are things that are grey. The grey area is where we might disagree. What lead me to believe you support the terrorists is the fact your posting in opposition of us. If your not for us, your against us. Can't make it any clearer than that. Gray? Gray my ass! It's black and white.... good vs evil... so far all you have done is support evil on this board.
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 2 Jan 2006, 05:24 · [Salvaged from Archive] Cheb your dead set on calling me a racist and for Please know that it is too late some reason that would be a victory for you. You think that if you can make me a racist then everything I say then becomes null and void which then eleminates me as a threat to your opinion. Well let me make this easy for you... I Hate everyone equally! LOL that make you feel better? If I were dead set on calling you a racist believe me I would have done it a long time ago. You think you have the answer to everything but you dont. What I am doing is defending my religion from people like you. Idiots that form their opinion based on what they see in the media and what people tell them. Actually I was just showing how you claim to be scared of God's wrath and how you love God, yet you seem to have racist and hypocritical characteristics that God will likely not approve of. Anyway I guess I should give you the benefit of the doubt again since you think that what you said wasnât racist. After all, our actions are judged by our intentions. Just telling you how I see it. A slightly better attempt at turning it around, but again... failure... keep trying though.. you will eventually get it! Believe me I am not looking for your approval. Why would you even try and defend them if your not for them? I certainly could care less about why they do it. All I care about is that they do it and that we will stop them. Your actions in defending them means your for them in my opinion and that makes you an enemy in my book. It seems like talking to you is like talking to a brick wall from a mile away. I am defending Islamic belief. You mentioning that they are dying for 72 virgins is a false statement that can misinterpret our belief. It can make people believe that Muslims are fighting for the sake of 72 virgins and not God. See even though I can distinguish between the Muslim that blows himself up and Muslim that condemns that kind of action but most other people cant. I have said before that I do not support their actions so I did not feel the need in saying it once again. You just seem adamant in thinking that I am what you want me to be. I agree that more than America are victims and I also am proud of my American boys over there not just dieing for my defense but for the victims all over the worlds defense, even when assholes like you don't. I have no idea what you are saying here. The 72 virgin reference is just so damn lame that I enjoy mentioning it, it reveals the stupidty behind which they stand. I think I have said enough about this. It doesnt seem to me that self defense has anything to do with racism. I really dont know why you would even mention that. I still dont know what lead you to believe that I support suicide bombings. It seems to me that you jumped to conclusions based on your interpretation of Muslims. Just like any religion, in Islam there are things that are black and white, and then there are things that are grey. The grey area is where we might disagree. What lead me to believe you support the terrorists is the fact your posting in opposition of us. If your not for us, your against us. Can't make it any clearer than that. Gray? Gray my ass! It's black and white.... good vs evil... so far all you have done is support evil on this board. Talk about being bias. You keep contradicting yourself in these threads. What you said is unbelievably closed minded and ignorant. Of course im not gonna be for you when you are attacking my religion and making false statements. I mean what are these forums for if we cant disagree. I thought for a sec that it might be worth my time to actually debate with you. But you are just wayy too ignorant and closed minded for me. It really is like talking to a brick wall.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 2 Jan 2006, 12:00 · [Salvaged from Archive] I'm not going to quote everything you said, because I can reply to them all by responding to two of your replies. I have no idea what you are saying here. I think that is obviously true by all of your replies. It really is like talking to a brick wall. You are very correct! As long as you are defending terrorism in any shape or form, be it under the disguise of "defending your religon" or down right defending them openly, you will find all of America is like a brick wall! You see, I understand Islam better than you think. (I will not bother explaining why) However, I haven't attacked Islam, I have been attacking dumbasses who use Islam as a means to accomplish their goals. You sir, have been defending them by trying to explain why they do what they do. That is defending them and makes you as bad as them. Act like a true peace loving Muslim and condemn their actions and you will find my response to be much different!
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 3 Jan 2006, 00:03 · [Salvaged from Archive] I'm not going to quote everything you said, because I can reply to them all by responding to two of your replies. I have no idea what you are saying here. I think that is obviously true by all of your replies. I was referring to your bad use of grammar in that sentence. I really couldnt understand you. I'm pretty sure I was comprehensible enough in all my replies. It really is like talking to a brick wall. You are very correct! As long as you are defending terrorism in any shape or form, be it under the disguise of "defending your religon" or down right defending them openly, you will find all of America is like a brick wall! You see, I understand Islam better than you think. (I will not bother explaining why) However, I haven't attacked Islam, I have been attacking dumbasses who use Islam as a means to accomplish their goals. You sir, have been defending them by trying to explain why they do what they do. That is defending them and makes you as bad as them. Act like a true peace loving Muslim and condemn their actions and you will find my response to be much different! No sir! I have not been defending them. I have been trying to educate you and people like you about Islam. I could'nt care less about what you say about the terrorists, as long as it does not involve undermining Islam. Seeing that you have already made up your mind, I guess we have nothing else to talk about. Talking to a brick wall gets annoying after some time.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 3 Jan 2006, 02:36 · [Salvaged from Archive] I'm pretty sure I was comprehensible enough in all my replies. It's been quite clear who's side your on. No sir! I have not been defending them. I have been trying to educate you and people like you about Islam. I could'nt care less about what you say about the terrorists, as long as it does not involve undermining Islam. Seeing that you have already made up your mind, I guess we have nothing else to talk about. Talking to a brick wall gets annoying after some time. Once again, you can hide under whatever mask you choose. Like I said earlier, defending their actions in any shape or form makes you one of them. Your either for us or against us. There is no "gray". Explain Islam so that what they do is obviously perversed and explain to us how it makes you mad that they use your religion as a means to accomplish their goals and I sympathize with you. However, you HAVE NOT done that at all! Yes beating on this brick wall does get annoying... you can tell the rest of your useless dumbass friends that their wasting their time as well. Cause I can assure you, we're all the same!
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 3 Jan 2006, 04:43 · [Salvaged from Archive] Once again, you can hide under whatever mask you choose. What makes you think i need to "hide" behind anything? If I want to say something I will go out and say it. There is nothing that you or anyone can do about it. There is no reason what so ever for me to hide my intentions. What do you think I would be scared of? I can say whatever here and in the end, nothing will really change. Like I said earlier, defending their actions in any shape or form makes you one of them. Your either for us or against us. There is no "gray". Explain Islam so that what they do is obviously perversed and explain to us how it makes you mad that they use your religion as a means to accomplish their goals and I sympathize with you. However, you HAVE NOT done that at all! You didnt even get what I meant by gray. I have already stated my point of view regarding terrorism. You just dont seem to get it. Yes beating on this brick wall does get annoying... you can tell the rest of your useless dumbass friends that their wasting their time as well. Cause I can assure you, we're all the same! Oh no believe me you are not the same. I know quite a few Americans and it is a lot easier to talk to them. you should just speak for yourself.
lucyharper Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 3 Jan 2006, 09:47 · [Salvaged from Archive] If I were a rich man fala la la... , fact is, war is the reality of reality. If it comes down to who survives in the dog eat dog world, I say, fuck them, and heres to me. http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c339/lucyharper/kerry_k…
Grimmancer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 3 Jan 2006, 11:01 · [Salvaged from Archive] LOL I love those pics! LOL thanks!
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 3 Jan 2006, 11:31 · [Salvaged from Archive] What makes you think i need to "hide" behind anything? If I want to say something I will go out and say it. There is nothing that you or anyone can do about it. There is no reason what so ever for me to hide my intentions. What do you think I would be scared of? I can say whatever here and in the end, nothing will really change. You don't think? Try this... if your not afraid of anything you have said... and your not hiding... I can easily give your IP over to the Fed's. Everything you have said here sounds like a sympathizer to me. Wonder if they would see it that way? You didnt even get what I meant by gray. I have already stated my point of view regarding terrorism. You just dont seem to get it. Have you? Well.. quit argueing with me and try siding with me for a change then. Cause I don't hate Islam, I hate the dumbass's who hide behind it. Islam isn't the problem, the radical's who believe that they will inherit 72 virgins for doing Allah's Jihad are the problem. Oh no believe me you are not the same. I know quite a few Americans and it is a lot easier to talk to them. you should just speak for yourself. Then you know the minority liberal's pussies. You obviously haven't met the rest of us.
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 3 Jan 2006, 23:51 · [Salvaged from Archive] You don't think? Try this... if your not afraid of anything you have said... and your not hiding... I can easily give your IP over to the Fed's. Everything you have said here sounds like a sympathizer to me. Wonder if they would see it that way? That's just funny. Fucken pathetic too. Do what you want you ignorant ass. Have you? Well.. quit argueing with me and try siding with me for a change then. Cause I don't hate Islam, I hate the dumbass's who hide behind it. Islam isn't the problem, the radical's who believe that they will inherit 72 virgins for doing Allah's Jihad are the problem. You are the one arguing about a totally different thing than me. It seems to me that your paranoid ass is jumping to conclusions based on what you want to think. I have not supported terrorism in any of my replies. I have no reason to do so. Yet you accuse me of supporting them because of some stupid reason. You DO NOT want to listen. You just want to argue. If you have been listening then we wouldnt really be arguing right now. Then you know the minority liberal's pussies. You obviously haven't met the rest of us. Damn will you stop deciding shit for me. No I dont know the minority liberals only. I know Republicans and Democrats. All seem to have the intellectual capacity to hold a conversation a lot better than you probably would.
DirktheSlasherMcGuire Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 05:49 · [Salvaged from Archive] Holy shit you blokes. Aren't you guys tired of going around in circles?
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 06:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] lol Very true. But he just keeps saying things that I cannot let go.
DirktheSlasherMcGuire Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 07:28 · [Salvaged from Archive] I can see both points of view and you both have very valid points. This is not a debate I choose to be part of, but I have found it to be very interesting reading. However, I'm starting to get dizzy. Maybe it's the scotch. :wink:
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 07:42 · [Salvaged from Archive] lol Maybe it is the scotch :). Though I went back to read what we have been posting and it does seem like we are going in circles. But I will keep posting as long as I feel it necessary. Or the thread closes ;)
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 07:51 · [Salvaged from Archive] That's just funny. Fucken pathetic too. Do what you want you ignorant ass. I don't think I ask for your permission. You are the one arguing about a totally different thing than me. It seems to me that your paranoid ass is jumping to conclusions based on what you want to think. I have not supported terrorism in any of my replies. I have no reason to do so. Yet you accuse me of supporting them because of some stupid reason. You DO NOT want to listen. You just want to argue. If you have been listening then we wouldnt really be arguing right now. Really? let me quote you back when you first started in this conversation... If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. That is exactly what the Terrorists of palestine are saying and the terrorist of Al-Qaeda say. Sounds like you support them to me. Damn will you stop deciding shit for me. No I dont know the minority liberals only. I know Republicans and Democrats. All seem to have the intellectual capacity to hold a conversation a lot better than you probably would. You obviously haven't been honest with them and let them see your supporting terrorism. Cause I can assure you any true American wouldn't tolerate your blabbering bullshit.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 07:58 · [Salvaged from Archive] lol Maybe it is the scotch :). Though I went back to read what we have been posting and it does seem like we are going in circles. But I will keep posting as long as I feel it necessary. Or the thread closes ;) No, if you re-read, you will notice Cheb has basically backed off from his original statements. He started out hardline and slowly decided he doesn't support terrorism. It's I who have refused to allow him to get away from it and that's why he is frustrated.
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 08:08 · [Salvaged from Archive] Once again thinking that you have all the answers. I have not backed off anything I said. It is you who has been making bogus statements. Why dont you show me where I said I supported terrorism.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 08:13 · [Salvaged from Archive] I did, read my reply above.
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 08:29 · [Salvaged from Archive] I don't think I ask for your permission. You did pose it as a question. You are the one arguing about a totally different thing than me. It seems to me that your paranoid ass is jumping to conclusions based on what you want to think. I have not supported terrorism in any of my replies. I have no reason to do so. Yet you accuse me of supporting them because of some stupid reason. You DO NOT want to listen. You just want to argue. If you have been listening then we wouldnt really be arguing right now. Really? let me quote you back when you first started in this conversation.... If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. That is exactly what the Terrorists of palestine are saying and the terrorist of Al-Qaeda say. Sounds like you support them to me. And that means I support terrorism??? Just like I thought you did jump to conclusions. I am giving you THE reason why the WTC was attacked, and why the U.S is a target to many terrorists. As long as you keep supporting Israel the attacks won't stop. See what that statement suggests is that I do not support the U.S supporting Israel, neither do I support the Iraq war. I do not support any kind of suicide bombings because not only is it a sin, it is also just making things worse. For fucks sake a suicide bomber blew himself up in a funeral today in Iraq and killed 30 muslims. Those bombers are the same ones that attack the U.S troops. How the fuck would I support that. You are just not smart enough to see things with an open mind. You simply think one thing with your closed minded brain and unfortunately it would come out to the keyboard. Damn will you stop deciding shit for me. No I dont know the minority liberals only. I know Republicans and Democrats. All seem to have the intellectual capacity to hold a conversation a lot better than you probably would. You obviously haven't been honest with them and let them see your supporting terrorism. Cause I can assure you any true American wouldn't tolerate your blabbering bullshit. Just 2 words. Fuck off.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 4 Jan 2006, 12:07 · [Salvaged from Archive] I do not support any kind of suicide bombings because not only is it a sin, it is also just making things worse. For fucks sake a suicide bomber blew himself up in a funeral today in Iraq and killed 30 muslims. Those bombers are the same ones that attack the U.S troops. How the fuck would I support that. You are just not smart enough to see things with an open mind. You simply think one thing with your closed minded brain and unfortunately it would come out to the keyboard. Yes, we've all seen how smart you are here. You are afterall the one who's been playing along. That does make you so much smarter than me doesn't it?! Instead of trying to play devil's advocate and making yourself appear to be one of them, you should have been siding with me, like you just did in that last statement and you could have saved yourself all of this time. I am a hardheaded, stand my ground, kiss my ass American. Apparently you just got your first taste. Believe it or not, like it or not, I am the majority. It sounds like, until now, the only ones you have met are the minorities. Just 2 words. Fuck off. Ahhh.... true words of an intellect! :lol:
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 05:47 · [Salvaged from Archive] Just 2 words. Fuck off. Ahhh.... true words of an intellect! :lol: This is the kind of answer you would get when you keep repeating things. It was the only reply left. Yes, we've all seen how smart you are here. You are afterall the one who's been playing along. That does make you so much smarter than me doesn't it?! Instead of trying to play devil's advocate and making yourself appear to be one of them, you should have been siding with me, like you just did in that last statement and you could have saved yourself all of this time. I am a hardheaded, stand my ground, kiss my ass American. Apparently you just got your first taste. Believe it or not, like it or not, I am the majority. It sounds like, until now, the only ones you have met are the minorities. I did not side with you because I did not agree with what you were saying. We could disagree and agree on different issues. But to you it seems that it would not be possible to do so. The issue initially had nothing to do with whether or not I am supporting terrorism. I was basically addressing the topic. When you start accusing me of being something I am not, I will defend myself just like anyone else would. Plus how do you want me to agree with you when you support a country that has slaughtered thousands of my country men. Not killed, slaughtered. I am talking about women, children , civilians being killed by the mass. Yet I dont hear anyone talking about that. This is a two-sided thing. We are not the only ones who should do something about the terrorists, but you should too. And violence is not always the answer. It can sometimes just create more violence.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 07:06 · [Salvaged from Archive] If your talking about the Israelis killing your people.. then we once again disagree and you truelly are a terrorist!
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 07:18 · [Salvaged from Archive] It seems to me that you are the kind of person who gets his joys of other people's frustration. Dont worry I already see that and dont really give a shit to what you have to say. I will not bother going into more detail with what I am talking about. You really have no clue whatsoever what is going on in the world and talking to you is really making me dumber. You can keep your redneck views to yourself. This will be the last post I have on this thread.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 07:29 · [Salvaged from Archive] Oh thank god! I didn't think he would ever give up!
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 14:01 · [Salvaged from Archive] You really have no clue whatsoever what is going on in the world Really? What you doing in Amsterdam.. aren't you from UAE?
Overlord Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 20:31 · [Salvaged from Archive] http://www.filecabi.net/u.php?file=1134878490.swf There ya LOL LOL that video was great! :lol:
Overlord Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 20:34 · [Salvaged from Archive] If you are wondering when the attacks will stop, put simply it is when the U.S stops supporting Israel and stops imposing their own idea of democracy on other countries. The day the U.S. stops supporting Isreal is the day I move to Isreal and start killing the Anti-Isreali terrorists myself. Israel doesnt' need our help. They kick arab ass all day without us (but they do like to buy our equipment to do it with :)) Actually if we would just butt out they could go back to polishing their nukes and they could take the whole middle east by themselves. Then we could buy their oil...
Overlord Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 20:40 · [Salvaged from Archive] You really have no clue whatsoever what is going on in the world Really? What you doing in Amsterdam.. aren't you from UAE? Sorry Sarge and Cheb too, you guys have pretty much worn it out. I did enjoy reading the flamewar though. :wink:
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 5 Jan 2006, 20:52 · [Salvaged from Archive] Sorry Sarge and Cheb too, you guys have pretty much worn it out. I did enjoy reading the flamewar though. :wink: Yeah he just doesn't have the testicular fortitude to hang in there with a true hardcore self-proclaimed American badass! Typical sand-lovin coward, shoot and run or hide behind a wall and shoot around a corner and do the spray and pray method and hope you hit an American. :lol: I also wanted to let him know what I am capable of doing. It's always best to know who your messing with before you push too hard. :P
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 03:38 · [Salvaged from Archive] You really have no clue whatsoever what is going on in the world Really? What you doing in Amsterdam.. aren't you from UAE? Maybe you should clarify this.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 7 Jan 2006, 09:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] It's as clear as it gets.
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 8 Jan 2006, 05:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] Where did you get Amsterdam from???
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 8 Jan 2006, 10:53 · [Salvaged from Archive] plays twilight zone music
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 10 Jan 2006, 15:22 · [Salvaged from Archive] No answer, thats what I thought.
sarge222 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 10 Jan 2006, 17:13 · [Salvaged from Archive] A good magician never reveals his tricks!
Overlord Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 10 Jan 2006, 20:45 · [Salvaged from Archive] it was on your signature Cheb... doh
Cheb Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 12 Jan 2006, 04:05 · [Salvaged from Archive] What do you mean on my signature? I have nothing to do with Amsterdam.
dog3rt Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 13 Feb 2006, 07:48 · [Salvaged from Archive] ç¯æå¼ºæ±è,è½è¿å¿è¯!!!
kratos Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 16 Mar 2006, 17:03 · [Salvaged from Archive] Dear god what a racist f*ck sarge is but his entitled to his opinions..
TheCanadian Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 03:43 · [Salvaged from Archive] SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS IT TIME TO BRING OUR BOYS HOME! Over 1,000 of them have lost there lives in a war no one is going to win ? lets get out so thay can have there civil war we all know that that is whats going to happan . My son is out there at the moment three more months to go with gods will he will come home safe and well . Bring the boys home I thank you that your son is fighting in the war and deffending our country, but do we really just want to sit here on our butts and do nothing while planes fly into our building?
Overlord Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 20:52 · [Salvaged from Archive] Thanks for digging up a six month old thread from the boneyard. Plus I sound like an asshole in this thread. I need to change my name... LOL
Snuff. Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 10 Jul 2006, 21:26 · [Salvaged from Archive] Ahhh.... true words of an intellect! :lol: shakes head If only he'd heard the words of a snufftelect. And Overlord: if you think that's bad imagine my thoughts when i found out you were a cop! :lol:
OutlawIncarnate Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 11 Jul 2006, 05:21 · [Salvaged from Archive] People say we are fighting a war that we can't win. But my question is do you even know what winning is? We don't need to kill every terrorist alive and create a perfect nation out of their shithole for us to have won. I don't think you should judge our military or Bush because it is impossible for there to be a clear victory. I do believe we are doing extremely well and have been very sucessful but there will never be a clear cut victory. Is winning everything? You don't need to dominate your oponent to have been sucessful and make a huge positive difference in the world.