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mousewallrat Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 11:12 · [Salvaged from Archive] Sharia - 50 Muslim Men Stone To Death 13-Year Old Girl CLOSE [X] (javascript://) This is what Sharia does. This is what muslims consider justice. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Innocent Little Girl, Stoned to Death for Being a Victim of Rape, Cries for Mercy Before they Kill Her. (FFI) An innocent little girl, Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, aged only 13yrs was stoned to death in Somalia. She pleaded for her life, a witness explained. "Do More.. (javascript://)n't kill me, don't kill me," she cried, according to the man who wanted to remain anonymous. Numerous eye-witnesses say she was forced into a hole, buried up to her neck then pelted with stones by over than 50 men until she died in front of 1,000 jeering spectators. She had been accused of adultery in breach of Islamic law, but sources told Amnesty International that she had in fact been raped by three men, and had attempted to report this rape. Aisha was killed on Monday 27 October in a stadium in the southern port of Kismayu. None of men she accused of rape were arrested. She was detained by militia of the Kismayo authorities, a coalition of Al-shabab and clan militias. During this time, she was reported to be extremely distressed, with some individuals stating she had become mentally unstable. Initial reports said she confessed to adultery before a Sharia court. Amnesty said it had learned she was only 13 and that her father had said she was gang raped by three men. Yes, that was her crime, she was raped by three savage Muslim men! When the family tried to report the rape, the girl was accused of adultery and detained. (more) http://www.faithfreedom.org/islam/innocent-little-girl-st… http://cdn-hw.liveleak.com/s/14/media14/2010/Jan/19/LiveL… (http://cdn-hw.liveleak.com/s/14/media14/2010/Jan/19/LiveL… ~ Less.. (javascript://)
silenthill22 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 11:46 · [Salvaged from Archive] isn't religion great...
tgd_02 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 11:57 · [Salvaged from Archive] this is old ass news
Quackers Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 12:31 · [Salvaged from Archive] This is what you get with religious nutjobs, all as bad as each other.
JooX Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 12:38 · [Salvaged from Archive] Thank fuck the civilised American justice system allows you your day in court... before they convict and kill innocent people. And I love the un-biased nature of the "news" story.
Supplemental Persona Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 12:45 · [Salvaged from Archive] Bitch would still be alive today if she had paper. http://snotsucker.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/rockpapersc…
Naysayer Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 14:03 · [Salvaged from Archive] Hmm, plan trip to Somalia. Rape the local women. They will kill the witness for me.
mousewallrat Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 19 Jan 2010, 14:52 · [Salvaged from Archive] Hmm, plan trip to Somalia. Rape the local women. They will kill the witness for me. Plus, you get to help throw the first stone.
Raidenator Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 01:00 · [Salvaged from Archive] Psh. She totally deserved it. She was all like bein a woman and stuff and struttin around.
HeyBuddy Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 10:32 · [Salvaged from Archive] isn't religion great... This is what you get with religious nutjobs, all as bad as each other. Don't you wish you could live somewhere without religion? A Russian Communist official asked a collective farm worker about the potato crop. " 'Oh, Commissar, if we could put the potatoes in one pile, they would reach the foot of God.' But, replied the commissar, 'this is the Soviet Union. There is no God.' 'That's all right,' the farmer said. 'There are no potatoes.' " The People's Republic of China (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China) was established in 1949. Its government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_People%27s… is officially atheist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist), which viewed religion as emblematic of feudalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism) and foreign colonialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism). Religious belief or practice was banned because it was regarded as backward and superstitious by some of the communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism) leaders, from Vladimir Lenin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin) to Mao Zedong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong), who had been critical of religious institutions.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China#cite_note-2) When there is no religion, government becomes all powerful. The leaders of the Soviet Union knew that, and so did Vladimir Lenin and Mao Zedong. So how is it that good atheists like Mao and Stalin could be so brutal. If I understand you correctly, it is religion that makes people evil.
Quackers Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 11:12 · [Salvaged from Archive] Theres no such things as good and evil. People disagree and kill each other, and religion is one most accepted reasons for doing so.
Quackers Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 11:52 · [Salvaged from Archive] Didn't have time to type this earlier, but the problems in those regions aren't because they're official atheist states anyway, that's inconsequential.
Big Ozzie Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 12:04 · [Salvaged from Archive] hmmmm, yeah...old newz. yep I heard from a friend of mine who knows someone who has a cousin that was married to a Somalian that it was only because she refused Butt Secks is why she was stoned! Can't say I blame her. Ever see a naked male Somalian? Their peckers hang lower than the women's titties!! True, it is. Check August '68 National Geographic! Now THAT is some real Fapping material!
HeyBuddy Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 12:44 · [Salvaged from Archive] Theres no such things as good and evil. People disagree and kill each other, and religion is one most accepted reasons for doing so. Other than the perpetrators, who accepts that excuse? I think most rational people, regardless of their personal beliefs know that it isn't acceptable. As for there being no such thing as good and evil, that's absurd. If I help an old lady cross the street, that's an act of good. If I push her in front of a moving vehicle and laugh, that's an evil act. Didn't have time to type this earlier, but the problems in those regions aren't because they're official atheist states anyway, that's inconsequential. My point is that wrong is wrong, regardless of whether you're atheist or religious. I've heard plenty of people on this site who seem to think that removing religion from mankind would end violence. I don't believe that at all. People will always find an excuse to try to gain power and control through violent means.
Quackers Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 13:07 · [Salvaged from Archive] Other than the perpetrators, who accepts that excuse? I think most rational people, regardless of their personal beliefs know that it isn't acceptable. As for there being no such thing as good and evil, that's absurd. If I help an old lady cross the street, that's an act of good. If I push her in front of a moving vehicle and laugh, that's an evil act. That's only your perceptions of good and evil. My point is that wrong is wrong, regardless of whether you're atheist or religious. I've heard plenty of people on this site who seem to think that removing religion from mankind would end violence. I don't believe that at all. People will always find an excuse to try to gain power and control through violent means. Hahaha, I don't think any rational and intelligent person thinks removing religion will end all violence. It would remove a hell of alot of it though, or make it harder to justify, if only for awhile, i'm sure people will find other things to divide themselves into different tribes. And violence isn't the only thing religion causes. Religion hampers rational thought, slows down the advance of science, brainwashes and eliminates individuality and independent thought, etc etc The list is endless.
Supplemental Persona Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 13:33 · [Salvaged from Archive] I'm pretty sure Justice Sharia was a Reagan appointee.
HeyBuddy Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 13:36 · [Salvaged from Archive] That's only your perceptions of good and evil. Hahaha, I don't think any rational and intelligent person thinks removing religion will end all violence. It would remove a hell of alot of it though, or make it harder to justify, if only for awhile, i'm sure people will find other things to divide themselves into different tribes. And violence isn't the only thing religion causes. Religion hampers rational thought, slows down the advance of science, brainwashes and eliminates individuality and independent thought, etc etc The list is endless. Religion may have that effect on some people, but to say it has that effect on the majority of people would be a complete disregard for the facts. There is a very small percentage of the population that consider themselves atheist or agnostic. Yet, we make advancements in science and technology every day. If we really want to get into the unintended consequences of faith, then we can't ignore the benefits. Many religions promote charitable acts and giving, respect for others, kindness and love. Of course, we can't make any blanket statements about the good, just as we can't really make blanket statements about the bad. As for your thoughts on good and evil, I didn't realize that your screen name conveniently says, "sociopath", underneath of it. So, I guess if you can't differentiate between right and wrong, then the description fits.
mousewallrat Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 14:16 · [Salvaged from Archive] Theres no such things as good and evil. People disagree and kill each other, and religion is one most accepted reasons for doing so. There are no such thing as smart and stupid..............well, scratch that. We now have proof.
mousewallrat Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 19:26 · [Salvaged from Archive] More Sharia Justice: Saudi girl, 13, sentenced to 90 lashes after she took a mobile phone to school A13-year-old girl has been sentenced to 90 lashes and two months' prison in Saudi Arabia after she took a mobile phone to school. A court ordered the girl to be flogged in front of her classmates following an assault on the school principal, according to the Saudi daily newspaper Al-Watan. After the assault she was discovered to have concealed a mobile phone, breaking strict Saudi regulations banning the use of camera-equipped phones in girls' schools. A criminal gets a public flogging by two officials in Saudi Arabia Brutal: public floggings, such as in this archive picture, are a common punishment handed down by religious courts in Saudi Arabia Al-Watan said a court in the northeastern Gulf port of Jubail had sentenced the girl to 90 lashes inside her school, followed by two months' detention. The punishment is harsher than tha dished out to some robbers and looters. Saudi Arabia, a leading US ally in the Middle East, is an absolute monarchy controlled by the Al-Saud ruling tribe, and lacks any legal code. King Abdullah has promoted some social reforms since taking the throne in 2005 but diplomats say he is held back by religious clerics and princes. Cinemas and music concerts are banned, while many restaurants and even some shopping centres cater to families only, especially on holidays. Religious police roam streets to make sure no unrelated men and women mix. The Saudi court system is exclusively controlled Wahahbi/Salafi clerics, and bans the employment of non-Salafi citizens, especially as judges. Saudi Arabia is the world's leading country in the use of torture-by-flogging, public beheadings and publically crucifying condemned prisoners. The country crucified two people in 2009, including one in the capital Riyadh during President Barak Obama’s visit last April. In September, twenty Saudi teenagers who ransacked shops and restaurants were publicly flogged. Newspapers reported that the teenagers received at least 30 lashes each in a public square.
Quackers Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 20 Jan 2010, 20:04 · [Salvaged from Archive] There is a very small percentage of the population that consider themselves atheist or agnostic. Yet, we make advancements in science and technology every day. What? No seriously, what the fuck? Are you really as stupid as you look? Never heard of religious opposition to stem cell research? How about euthanasia? Abortion? Stem cell research might still be going on etc, but this opposition slows it down. How about condoms? It has an enormous effect when someone as influential as the pope tells people not to use condoms, and millions of Africans die as a result. It's not a problem over here, but I know in your country they don't even teach evolution in some schools because of the dogmatic influence of religion. And atheism isn't as rare as you may think, it's not a tiny percentage, some study's have shown it's about 14% of the worlds population, and it's one of the fastest growing 'religions'. Where I live, in my generation it's probably the majority, at least amongst my peers, I know alot more atheists than I do religious people. If we really want to get into the unintended consequences of faith, then we can't ignore the benefits. Many religions promote charitable acts and giving, respect for others, kindness and love. Of course, we can't make any blanket statements about the good, just as we can't really make blanket statements about the bad. As for your thoughts on good and evil, I didn't realize that your screen name conveniently says, "sociopath", underneath of it. So, I guess if you can't differentiate between right and wrong, then the description fits. Haha, now your trying to credit religion with the human emotions of empathy and sympathy? Even love... Hahaha Atheists donate just as much if not more than religious people. And they don't do it just so they can get into heaven. Right and wrong is all relative.
JooX Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 01:18 · [Salvaged from Archive] What? No seriously, what the fuck? Are you really as stupid as you look? Never heard of religious opposition to stem cell research? How about euthanasia? Abortion? Stem cell research might still be going on etc, but this opposition slows it down. How about condoms? It has an enormous effect when someone as influential as the pope tells people not to use condoms, and millions of Africans die as a result. It's not a problem over here, but I know in your country they don't even teach evolution in some schools because of the dogmatic influence of religion. And atheism isn't as rare as you may think, it's not a tiny percentage, some study's have shown it's about 14% of the worlds population, and it's one of the fastest growing 'religions'. Where I live, in my generation it's probably the majority, at least amongst my peers, I know alot more atheists than I do religious people. Haha, now your trying to credit religion with the human emotions of empathy and sympathy? Even love... Hahaha Atheists donate just as much if not more than religious people. And they don't do it just so they can get into heaven. Right and wrong is all relative. I think, and I hope, that HB's point was that you could call yourself whatever you like... but there are arseholes everywhere. Creating a link between what someone calls themself, a group, an ideal, a belief, and then assuming it's the [insert name here] that causes these actions to be carried out is about as laughable as claiming birds only fly because we call them birds. If you want to broaden the field, find a name that covers all, then call it humanity. Each individual is responsible for their own actions, good, bad, or extremes of each. Calling yourself a Christian makes as much sense as calling yourself a Friendly Nice Non-aggresive Peace Maker when it comes to what that person actually is. The symantics of this debate are vast and many, but the point is this; labels help us communicate in broad/general terms quickly, you just have to hope you're talking with someone who isn't a fucking idiot.
Afronaught Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 02:10 · [Salvaged from Archive] More Sharia Justice: Saudi girl, 13, sentenced to 90 lashes after she took a mobile phone to school A13-year-old girl has been sentenced to 90 lashes and two months' prison in Saudi Arabia after she took a mobile phone to school. A court ordered the girl to be flogged in front of her classmates following an assault on the school principal, according to the Saudi daily newspaper Al-Watan. After the assault she was discovered to have concealed a mobile phone, breaking strict Saudi regulations banning the use of camera-equipped phones in girls' schools. A criminal gets a public flogging by two officials in Saudi Arabia Brutal: public floggings, such as in this archive picture, are a common punishment handed down by religious courts in Saudi Arabia Al-Watan said a court in the northeastern Gulf port of Jubail had sentenced the girl to 90 lashes inside her school, followed by two months' detention. The punishment is harsher than tha dished out to some robbers and looters. Saudi Arabia, a leading US ally in the Middle East, is an absolute monarchy controlled by the Al-Saud ruling tribe, and lacks any legal code. King Abdullah has promoted some social reforms since taking the throne in 2005 but diplomats say he is held back by religious clerics and princes. Cinemas and music concerts are banned, while many restaurants and even some shopping centres cater to families only, especially on holidays. Religious police roam streets to make sure no unrelated men and women mix. The Saudi court system is exclusively controlled Wahahbi/Salafi clerics, and bans the employment of non-Salafi citizens, especially as judges. Saudi Arabia is the world's leading country in the use of torture-by-flogging, public beheadings and publically crucifying condemned prisoners. The country crucified two people in 2009, including one in the capital Riyadh during President Barak Obama’s visit last April. In September, twenty Saudi teenagers who ransacked shops and restaurants were publicly flogged. Newspapers reported that the teenagers received at least 30 lashes each in a public square. That Bitch aint gonna take her phone to school Ever again... And I bet her classmates wont either... They should Impliment that law everywhere in the world. :thumb: They sould impliment that law to extend to Assholes who drive and talk on their mobile phones at the same time
rubicks Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 04:44 · [Salvaged from Archive] That Bitch aint gonna take her phone to school Ever again... And I bet her classmates wont either... They should Impliment that law everywhere in the world. :thumb: They sould impliment that law to extend to Assholes who drive and talk on their mobile phones at the same time it may seem archaic to us civilised people,but their laws are their laws.How would America feel if Saudi's questioned the right to bear arms?it's the same as immigrants wanting their "days" recognized by the country they are moving to: you want to live here or there? our/their rules apply:thumb:have a nice day/onya blu'
MCMXCII Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 05:13 · [Salvaged from Archive] I think you need some help, MWR.. :omg: Seriously, you're becoming one of them nutters that is scared of all that does not have an American flag and a CE mark on it.
Josh85 Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 05:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] fucken muslims. Bring on another crusade.
HeyBuddy Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 17:41 · [Salvaged from Archive] What? No seriously, what the fuck? Are you really as stupid as you look? Never heard of religious opposition to stem cell research? How about euthanasia? Abortion? Stem cell research might still be going on etc, but this opposition slows it down. How about condoms? It has an enormous effect when someone as influential as the pope tells people not to use condoms, and millions of Africans die as a result. It's not a problem over here, but I know in your country they don't even teach evolution in some schools because of the dogmatic influence of religion. And atheism isn't as rare as you may think, it's not a tiny percentage, some study's have shown it's about 14% of the worlds population, and it's one of the fastest growing 'religions'. Where I live, in my generation it's probably the majority, at least amongst my peers, I know alot more atheists than I do religious people. Haha, now your trying to credit religion with the human emotions of empathy and sympathy? Even love... Hahaha Atheists donate just as much if not more than religious people. And they don't do it just so they can get into heaven. Right and wrong is all relative. I'm not even going to waste my time responding to every part of this, but you are poorly informed. They do teach evolution in our schools. Not sure who fed you that line of crap. The stem cell opposition you're speaking of is specifically government funded EMBRYONIC stem cell research, and it's opposed by a few on religious grounds. Many also oppose government funding it because our government it broke, and private investors are already funding it. The researchers make plenty of money without subsidies. Finally, what I'm saying about the good that churches do is that they PROMOTE it. If one person has empathy or sympathy, that's great. When he congregates with others that feel likewise, they can do great things. I don't remember the last time I went to a hospital called, "Saint Atheist". I don't know how things are in your country, any more than you know how things are here. So maybe I'm wasting my time having this exchange with you. One thing that is concrete is that there is good and evil, and yes...by definition it is perceived. To say that there is no such than as good or evil, is like saying that there is no hot or cold. It's all in what you consider hot, or what you consider cold. I personally think you're just arguing to argue.
mousewallrat Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 18:01 · [Salvaged from Archive] I think you need some help, MWR.. :omg: Seriously, you're becoming one of them nutters that is scared of all that does not have an American flag and a CE mark on it. Dude, I don't make it up, I just point it out. DOn't be projecting on me....m'k?
JooX Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 18:43 · [Salvaged from Archive] Bitch was out of the kitchen, got whacked... seems legit. S-A-R-C-A-S-M
Ghandi's Mohawk. Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 21 Jan 2010, 19:08 · [Salvaged from Archive] Fuck the person responsible for the "Go back one page" shortcut. Will redo it tomorrow or something, La di fucking da.
Seamus Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 22 Jan 2010, 08:21 · [Salvaged from Archive] Sharia - 50 Muslim Men Stone To Death 13-Year Old Girl CLOSE [X] (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E://) This is what Sharia does. This is what muslims consider justice. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Innocent Little Girl, Stoned to Death for Being a Victim of Rape, Cries for Mercy Before they Kill Her. (FFI) An innocent little girl, Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, aged only 13yrs was stoned to death in Somalia. She pleaded for her life, a witness explained. "Do More.. (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E://)n't kill me, don't kill me," she cried, according to the man who wanted to remain anonymous. Numerous eye-witnesses say she was forced into a hole, buried up to her neck then pelted with stones by over than 50 men until she died in front of 1,000 jeering spectators. She had been accused of adultery in breach of Islamic law, but sources told Amnesty International that she had in fact been raped by three men, and had attempted to report this rape. Aisha was killed on Monday 27 October in a stadium in the southern port of Kismayu. None of men she accused of rape were arrested. She was detained by militia of the Kismayo authorities, a coalition of Al-shabab and clan militias. During this time, she was reported to be extremely distressed, with some individuals stating she had become mentally unstable. Initial reports said she confessed to adultery before a Sharia court. Amnesty said it had learned she was only 13 and that her father had said she was gang raped by three men. Yes, that was her crime, she was raped by three savage Muslim men! When the family tried to report the rape, the girl was accused of adultery and detained. (more) http://www.faithfreedom.org/islam/innocent-little-girl-st… http://cdn-hw.liveleak.com/s/14/media14/2010/Jan/19/LiveL… (http://cdn-hw.liveleak.com/s/14/media14/2010/Jan/19/LiveL… ~ Less.. (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E://) Never mind, nothing to do with ya at all at all.
MontysDouble Salvaged from Archive	Posted: 23 Jan 2010, 04:59 · [Salvaged from Archive] That Bitch aint gonna take her phone to school Ever again... And I bet her classmates wont either... They should Impliment that law everywhere in the world. :thumb: They sould impliment that law to extend to Assholes who drive and talk on their mobile phones at the same timeNot necessary Afro- I just throw my water bottle at their windscreen... bastard's pretty dented up. :thumb: fucken muslims. Bring on another crusade.And while we're kicking people out of the Holy Land, let's also kick out the Jews because Christians were there firs... Wait a second... :omg: Better idea: Let's just shuffle people around using invasions, border changes and forced deportations and carve up all states into nice, religio-linguistic-ethnically streamed rump states so everyone lives nice, peaceful lives among their peers with no neighbours that do funny things five times a day or on Saturdays. We can give Aboriginals patches of desert a hundred kilometres out of country towns, and they can find their own jobs. :rolleyes2: