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DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 20 Dec 2006, 23:15 · [Salvaged from Archive]
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/20/061220094102.ixs… |
Monstermash
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 01:17 · [Salvaged from Archive]
That guy is just another brainwashed fanatic. Take no notice. :( |
Clouds in the Sky
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 06:41 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Meh, you never know, he might be right. |
fasterspider
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 08:13 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If those stupid middle easterners would just wake up and realize there is no such thing as a devine god, they would be so much better off.
If the US government would get smart and just kill everyone from the middle east, all that oil would be ours.
Kill em all. |
Clouds in the Sky
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 08:53 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If those stupid middle easterners would just wake up and realize there is no such thing as a devine god, they would be so much better off.
If the US government would get smart and just kill everyone from the middle east, all that oil would be ours.
Kill em all.
It's people like you who make me wish humanity never existed. Crawl back from where you came from...Your post is causing my brain to cripple. |
Big Ozzie
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 09:21 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If those stupid middle easterners would just wake up and realize there is no such thing as a devine god, they would be so much better off.
If the US government would get smart and just kill everyone from the middle east, all that oil would be ours.
Kill em all.
It's people like you who make me wish humanity never existed. Crawl back from where you came from...Your post is causing my brain to
cripple.
Is that what it is, Annie? I was wondering what was giving me a
HEADACHE. My Brain must be getting all deformed from reading
such an idiotic post!
LOL, the only thing good about people who post crap like that
is we have something to compare normal, intelligent posts to! |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 09:35 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Thats exactly why Iran will be attacked next by the West (American led). Its on the cards, its under planning.
Iran is threataning to sell its oil in euros rather than the current dollar.
This will collapse the American economy.
This can't happen, America will not allow it.
Saddam was going to do the same - sell his oil in euros - America could not let this happen - the strength of the dollar would weaken and eventually destroy the American economy - America can not let thishappen.
The plans are under way to attack Iran.
The story?
The same as Iraq - WMD's.
We are being fed the same about their nucleur ambitions almost like Iraq.
We are being groomed as the public of the west by the masive propoganda machine of the Bush admin.
We are being made ready to accept that Iran is building a nuke, we will then suppor the invasion of Iran to neutralise the threat.
the only real threat?
Is the value of the dollar.
Iran are not making a nuke bomb, only enrgy resources from nucleur power, but for their own good, Ahmadinejad needs to stop being so secretive and stubborn just to keep face.
America will attack Iran within the next few years and will give us the same story for the attack as Iraq - the conduct of having a nuke weapon.
This will be the lie to invade Iran.
If Iran was on a bed of water it would not be relevant, but it sits on oil and thats what they want ot control.
Why do you think North Korea and the current African crisis are looked obver? Theres no money in it.
Iran is next on the cards, Ahmadinejad needs to stop playing the stubboprn leader and think wisely other wuise his country is going to be attacked.
The most dangerous thing is the new world order - i.e the current bush admin, they are power hungry to keep the good ol USA in power - to keep te dollar the most powerfull form of currency rather than let it dwindle and surcomb to the power of the euro.
Mark my words. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 09:37 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Thats exactly why Iran will be attacked next by the West (American led). Its on the cards, its under planning.
Iran is threataning to sell its oil in euros rather than the current dollar.
This will collapse the American economy.
This can't happen, America will not allow it.
Saddam was going to do the same - sell his oil in euros - America could not let this happen - the strength of the dollar would weaken and eventually destroy the American economy - America can not let thishappen.
The plans are under way to attack Iran.
The story?
The same as Iraq - WMD's.
We are being fed the same about their nucleur ambitions almost like Iraq.
We are being groomed as the public of the west by the masive propoganda machine of the Bush admin.
We are being made ready to accept that Iran is building a nuke, we will then suppor the invasion of Iran to neutralise the threat.
the only real threat?
Is the value of the dollar.
Iran are not making a nuke bomb, only enrgy resources from nucleur power, but for their own good, Ahmadinejad needs to stop being so secretive and stubborn just to keep face.
America will attack Iran within the next few years and will give us the same story for the attack as Iraq - the conduct of having a nuke weapon.
This will be the lie to invade Iran.
If Iran was on a bed of water it would not be relevant, but it sits on oil and thats what they want ot control.
Why do you think North Korea and the current African crisis are looked obver? Theres no money in it.
Iran is next on the cards, Ahmadinejad needs to stop playing the stubboprn leader and think wisely other wuise his country is going to be attacked.
The most dangerous thing is the new world order - i.e the current bush admin, they are power hungry to keep the good ol USA in power - to keep te dollar the most powerfull form of currency rather than let it dwindle and surcomb to the power of the euro.
Mark my words.
:roll: |
fasterspider
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 09:49 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I love the responses I get from posts like the one I left earlier.
It truly is about the oil and Bush's desire to be king of the world.
I do not agree with it but there is nothing I can do about it. I am not an oil man so I have no meaning. |
Big Ozzie
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 09:56 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Thats exactly why Iran will be attacked next by the West (American led). Its on the cards, its under planning.
Iran is threataning to sell its oil in euros rather than the current dollar.
This will collapse the American economy.
This can't happen, America will not allow it.
Saddam was going to do the same - sell his oil in euros - America could not let this happen - the strength of the dollar would weaken and eventually destroy the American economy - America can not let thishappen.
The plans are under way to attack Iran.
The story?
The same as Iraq - WMD's.
We are being fed the same about their nucleur ambitions almost like Iraq.
We are being groomed as the public of the west by the masive propoganda machine of the Bush admin.
We are being made ready to accept that Iran is building a nuke, we will then suppor the invasion of Iran to neutralise the threat.
the only real threat?
Is the value of the dollar.
Iran are not making a nuke bomb, only enrgy resources from nucleur power, but for their own good, Ahmadinejad needs to stop being so secretive and stubborn just to keep face.
America will attack Iran within the next few years and will give us the same story for the attack as Iraq - the conduct of having a nuke weapon.
This will be the lie to invade Iran.
If Iran was on a bed of water it would not be relevant, but it sits on oil and thats what they want ot control.
Why do you think North Korea and the current African crisis are looked obver? Theres no money in it.
Iran is next on the cards, Ahmadinejad needs to stop playing the stubboprn leader and think wisely other wuise his country is going to be attacked.
The most dangerous thing is the new world order - i.e the current bush admin, they are power hungry to keep the good ol USA in power - to keep te dollar the most powerfull form of currency rather than let it dwindle and surcomb to the power of the euro.
Mark my words.
OK Brix.....I "Marked your Words!" (on the wall of the outhouse by my barn) |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 11:49 · [Salvaged from Archive]
:roll:
Wtf is that suppose to mean Steptoe?
This is serious stuff mate, something you shouldnt brush aside, cos its YOUR country that will be the catalyst and main invlover in this conflict.
You may laugh now but you'll see in the next few years when this shit develops into a war that it wont be a lughing matter, these things should concern you. Also, this thread is called Ahmadinejad, so not sure what you expected the comments to invlove.
@Big Ozzie, thats right mate, you mark them words in capitals man cos you heard it first here (well, maybe not) but this shit is going to hit the fan very soon.... |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 11:51 · [Salvaged from Archive]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006… |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 11:59 · [Salvaged from Archive]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006…
Exactly, nice link.
It amases me when someone like me gives info on this matter and folk like steptoe give it :roll:
To me that just shows one thing, without being generlising and anti USA, it shows that the majority of folk in that country dont give two figs about the endeavours of their admin and military over sees, then they wonder why they are on a high level of terror threat and wonder why they get attacked, shame. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:03 · [Salvaged from Archive]
:roll:
Wtf is that suppose to mean Steptoe?
This is serious stuff mate, something you shouldnt brush aside, cos its YOUR country that will be the catalyst and main invlover in this conflict.
You may laugh now but you'll see in the next few years when this shit develops into a war that it wont be a lughing matter, these things should concern you. Also, this thread is called Ahmadinejad, so not sure what you expected the comments to invlove.
@Big Ozzie, thats right mate, you mark them words in capitals man cos you heard it first here (well, maybe not) but this shit is going to hit the fan very soon....
:roll:
It means I take bullshit at face value. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:10 · [Salvaged from Archive]
From that article...
Strategists at the Pentagon are drawing up plans for devastating bombing raids backed by submarine-launched ballistic missile attacks against Iran's nuclear sites as a "last resort" to block Teheran's efforts to develop an atomic bomb.
Sounds like a plan to me, countries that execute 16 year old girls for not wearing their veil (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5217424.stm) shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:12 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Steptoe man, with your attitude on this event im not surprised Bush was voted in for a second term.
You are only a young guy so I suppose you are not really bothered by world events but someday you will be when it effects you.
And for the record, iran are not building a nuke weapon, that is what the propaganda machine in the US is churning out to win support when you eventually head into that region, JUST LIKE IRAQ WMD FAIRYTALE THEY MADE UP FOR YOU. |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:12 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I read yesterday Iran has them now.....but can't remember where.
Shiriah Law is very scary. Canada just banned it...they were trying to introduce it here. |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:13 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Steptoe man, with your attitude on this event im not surprised Bush was voted in for a second term.
You are only a young guy so I suppose you are not really bothered by world events but someday you will be when it effects you.
The Stepp is in the US Army Brixton....it already effects him. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:18 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Steptoe man, with your attitude on this event im not surprised Bush was voted in for a second term.
You are only a young guy so I suppose you are not really bothered by world events but someday you will be when it effects you.
And for the record, iran are not building a nuke weapon, that is what the propaganda machine in the US is churning out to win support when you eventually head into that region, JUST LIKE IRAQ WMD FAIRYTALE THEY MADE UP FOR YOU.
He was voted in because people knew Kerry couldn't handle the job, if the democrats would have put up a decent candidate it would have been a landslide. I know for a fact I keep up with world events better than you, and also, that they bother me more than they do you. When was the last time you were in Iran? Sounds like the UK propaganda machine is churning out more lies for you my friend. We also most certainly did find WMD's, as I've stated before, and linked to articles for you. But apparently Sarin isn't nasty enough for you. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:25 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Steptoe, bruv man, I wasnt gettign perosnal, Im not saying 'I can keep track of world events better than you' 'my dads harder than your dad' crap, you need to get shit in perspective, you need to understand when someone i.e me is debating sensibly and seriously without being offensive.
But you know what, fuck it dude, theres no point even bothering to post on this matter anymore, you need to stop deing defensive and strat listeing without giveing shit back to people.
Good evening to you sir. |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:33 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I read yesterday Iran has them now.....but can't remember where.
Shiriah Law is very scary. Canada just banned it...they were trying to introduce it here.
Have you read the Sharia?
No..... but I knew some women who lived under it in the Middle East. Because I am a woman it scares me. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:35 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Steptoe, bruv man, I wasnt gettign perosnal, Im not saying 'I can keep track of world events better than you' 'my dads harder than your dad' crap, you need to get shit in perspective, you need to understand when someone i.e me is debating sensibly and seriously without being offensive.
But you know what, fuck it dude, theres no point even bothering to post on this matter anymore, you need to stop deing defensive and strat listeing without giveing shit back to people.
Good evening to you sir.
I'm not being defensive, I'm just stating facts and you're losing the debate...not my fault that you've been fed propaganda your whole life. Go yell at the BBC, the flow of bullshit goes both ways. |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:41 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I read yesterday Iran has them now.....but can't remember where.
Shiriah Law is very scary. Canada just banned it...they were trying to introduce it here.
Have you read the Sharia?
No..... but I knew some women who lived under it in the Middle East. Because I am a woman it scares me.
if you haven't read it how does it scare you? Do you believe in gossip or facts?
I am not going to get into it with you Ace. I have associated with women who are living it. You will have to argue with Steppman because I am here to have fun not fight. :D |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:44 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Steptoe, bruv man, I wasnt gettign perosnal, Im not saying 'I can keep track of world events better than you' 'my dads harder than your dad' crap, you need to get shit in perspective, you need to understand when someone i.e me is debating sensibly and seriously without being offensive.
But you know what, fuck it dude, theres no point even bothering to post on this matter anymore, you need to stop deing defensive and strat listeing without giveing shit back to people.
Good evening to you sir.
I'm not being defensive, I'm just stating facts and you're losing the debate...not my fault that you've been fed propaganda your whole life. Go yell at the BBC, the flow of bullshit goes both ways.
How can I debate with someone that thnk s they actually found WMD's in Iraq?
You call Sarin a WMD? what about the white phosphorus the USA used in Fallujah? Surely thats a wmd aswell if Sarin is? |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:48 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I read yesterday Iran has them now.....but can't remember where.
Shiriah Law is very scary. Canada just banned it...they were trying to introduce it here.
Have you read the Sharia?
No..... but I knew some women who lived under it in the Middle East. Because I am a woman it scares me.
if you haven't read it how does it scare you? Do you believe in gossip or facts?
Please read the Sharia Law before judging it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia#Laws_and_practices_un…
Let's see....
The penalty for theft
In accordance with the Qur'an and several hadith, theft is punished by imprisonment or amputation of hands or feet, depending on the number of times it was committed and depending on the item of theft.[5][6]
The penalty for adultery
Main article: Stoning to Death in Islam
In accordance with hadith, stoning to death is the penalty for married men and women who commit adultery.[7] For unmarried men and women, the punishment prescribed in the Qur'an and hadith is 100 lashes.
Freedom of speech
See also: Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy
See also: Blasphemy laws of the Islamic Republic of Iran and Blasphemy laws of Pakistan
Sharia does not allow freedom of speech on such matters as criticism of Muhammad. Such criticism is considered blasphemy against Muhammad.
No thanks! |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:49 · [Salvaged from Archive]
How can I debate with someone that thnk s they actually found WMD's in Iraq?
You call Sarin a WMD? what about the white phosphorus the USA used in Fallujah? Surely thats a wmd aswell if Sarin is?
:shock: |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 12:55 · [Salvaged from Archive]
How can I debate with someone that thnk s they actually found WMD's in Iraq?
You call Sarin a WMD? what about the white phosphorus the USA used in Fallujah? Surely thats a wmd aswell if Sarin is?
Phosphorus is not a chemical weapon, it is incendiary like napalm, and non-toxic if you're not making contact with it. Sarin has always, and will always be classified by every nation as a WMD. If you don't know why, you should do some research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin) so you don't look so ignorant. ;)
Sarin :
Initial symptoms following exposure to sarin (and other nerve agents) are a runny nose, tightness in the chest and constriction of the pupils. Soon after, the victim has difficulty breathing and experiences nausea and drooling. As the victim continues to lose control of bodily functions, he vomits, defecates and urinates. This phase is followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the victim becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of convulsive spasms.
White Phosphorus :
Effects on humans
White phosphorus can cause injuries and death in three ways: by burning deep into soft tissue, by being inhaled as a smoke and by being ingested. Extensive exposure in any way can be fatal.
So it's no different than any other accelerant that's on fire, toxic to breath the smoke, put in your body, or touch...Sarin disperses into the air and kills everyone. |
PA
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 13:01 · [Salvaged from Archive]
i always thought that iranians believed in allah, not god.... go figure. :wink:
as for the execution of the 16 year old girl, if it was like that in the US, there wouldnt be any women left :lol:
i think this topic is gonna end up in the fight room :roll: |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 13:02 · [Salvaged from Archive]
We also most certainly did find WMD's, as I've stated before, .
http://www.csm.ornl.gov/PR/PR2004/NS-07-12-04.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0918-20.htm |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 13:07 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I like being mass destructed occasionally lol! |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 13:08 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Yeah "Allah" translates to "God"...
We also most certainly did find WMD's, as I've stated before, .
http://www.csm.ornl.gov/PR/PR2004/NS-07-12-04.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0918-20.htm
Not even gonna click on them, most likely about some independant or CIA report about no WMD's...I've already linked you to sites that have talked about us finding them, and I know some of the people who found them. Our guys have also been hit with Sarin while in Iraq, it doesn't get any clearer than that. Keep your head up your ass, it wouldn't do us any good here in the real world anyway.
Edit : Fine I clicked on them now...
1st link :
Starts with : "Although we have not found stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction, we were right to go into Iraq"
We didn't not find stockpiles, we found mostly individual munitions or small clusters of them, this is a terminology issue.
2nd link :
Is from the Guardian, case closed....I skimmed the article and it looks like a bunch of horse shit. Find me a real source please. ;) |
PA
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 21 Dec 2006, 13:31 · [Salvaged from Archive]
i always thought that iranians believed in allah, not god.... go figure. :wink:
I think you should learn the meaning of Allah before making ignorant comment like that.
EDIT: Sorry had to edit my comment.
Allah means The God
"Al" means "The"
"Illah" means "God"
In the Arabic grammar when these 2 words join "I" get eliminated and thus the word "Allah" ~ "The God"
whoa.....srry ace didnt mean to offend you nor be ignorant :(
i have a muslim friend who always referred to god as "Allah"
......... |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 05:49 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Yeah "Allah" translates to "God"...
We also most certainly did find WMD's, as I've stated before, .
http://www.csm.ornl.gov/PR/PR2004/NS-07-12-04.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0918-20.htm
Not even gonna click on them
Your an ignorant idiot then mate, plain and simple, Ive tried to inform you and you brush it off ''not even gunna click on them'' wtf is that man? Your too arrogant for your own good son, your only excuse is that your only about 18 and have got a lot to learn.
:evil: |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 05:53 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Yeah "Allah" translates to "God"...
We also most certainly did find WMD's, as I've stated before, .
http://www.csm.ornl.gov/PR/PR2004/NS-07-12-04.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0918-20.htm
Not even gonna click on them
Your an ignorant idiot then mate, plain and simple, Ive tried to inform you and you brush it off ''not even gunna click on them'' wtf is that man? Your too arrogant for your own good son, your only excuse is that your only about 18 and have got a lot to learn.
:evil:
WTF? Only gonna quote the first couple words? I clicked them and they're bullshit just like I thought. And for the record, I'm 22. Don't be a fucking troll.
Fine I clicked on them now.. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 07:32 · [Salvaged from Archive]
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.report/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-10-06-wmd_x.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3718150.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1307529,00.html
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1062162003
But according to Steptoe, ALL the above links are bullshit cos he knows better than this range of news sources because he knows all.
Aint that right Steptoe?
:shock: |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 07:52 · [Salvaged from Archive]
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.wmd.report/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-10-06-wmd_x.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3718150.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1307529,00.html
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1062162003
But according to Steptoe, ALL the above links are bullshit cos he knows better than this range of news sources because he knows all.
Aint that right Steptoe?
:shock:
And I suppose all mine are bullshit too?
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/22/060622055545.07o…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005…
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1528…
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=…
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archiv…
http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=1873019&nav=Ey…
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jun2006/20060629_5547.html
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/mariani/2004/mar…
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/13/224902.shtml
And as much as I hate Fox News, they have a good video about the older weapons Saddam had...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ml_5ielKSU
This could go on all day, bottom line is we found WMD's, I literally know people who found them...that's not from a news source. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 08:10 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Not even gonna click on them. Keep your head up your ass, it wouldn't do us any good here in the real world anyway. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 08:17 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Not even gonna click on them. Keep your head up your ass, it wouldn't do us any good here in the real world anyway.
Ha! Use your own lines you son of a bitch! ;)
But seriously, I clicked on yours...and all your sources are liberal newspapers and such. It's a common myth we didn't find any, and I always enjoy a good debate about it, because it's something that's fairly easy to prove. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 08:37 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Ok Steptoe, final link then I'll leave it
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/22/1421212
I will quote George Bush himself as found in the above link;
''Now, look, I didnt -- part of the reason we went into Iraq was -- the main reason we went into Iraq at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't, but he had the capacity to make weapons of mass destruction.'' George Bush
The above quote is from the USA President himself.
He has admitted they didnt find WMDs. They might have found Chemical Weapons as you have pointed out but no WMDs as Bush himself admitted.
Are you going to deny this quote is real?
Will you be the bigger man and admit you are confused on this issue?
For you again;
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush.
You gunna argue with Bush now Steptoe?
:shock: |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 08:47 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Brixton! You should not post this heap of lies you know he didn't say those things - all this is trickery from the liberal video editing suite! :wink: |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 08:54 · [Salvaged from Archive]
The full quote...
Now, look, part of the reason we went into Iraq was -- the main reason we went into Iraq at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't, but he had the capacity to make weapons of mass destruction. But I also talked about the human suffering in Iraq, and I also talked the need to advance a freedom agenda. And so my question -- my answer to your question is, is that, imagine a world in which Saddam Hussein was there, stirring up even more trouble in a part of the world that had so much resentment and so much hatred that people came and killed 3,000 of our citizens.
And this was 4 months ago, I know for a fact we've found Sarin and Mustard gas...are you saying those are NOT WMD's?
Edit : For reference...
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP/FNC) A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent recently exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday. |
AllisterFiend
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 08:55 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Sarin and Mustard gas? I didn't think those were WMD. |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:00 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Oh I bet he knew they were there since it was the west who probably sold them to him lol! Mustard gas and Sarin buy one get one free! |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:00 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Sarin and Mustard gas? I didn't think those were WMD.
# Generally refers to chemical, nuclear, biological agents or explosive devices.
www1.va.gov/emshg/apps/emp/emp/definitions.htm
# weapon of mass destruction: a weapon that kills or injures civilian as well as military personnel (nuclear and chemical and biological weapons)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
# Weapons of mass destruction (WMD) generally include nuclear, biological, chemical and, increasingly, radiological weapons. The term first arose in 1937 in reference to the mass destruction of Guernica, Spain, by aerial bombardment. Following the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and progressing through the Cold War, the term came to refer more to non-conventional weapons. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WMD |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:00 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Oh I bet he knew they were there since it was the west who probably sold them to him lol! Mustard gas and Sarin buy one get one free!
Doesn't matter if Jesus sold them to him, you guys are claiming they don't exist. ;) |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:05 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I think it does matter who sold them to him and for the record I haven't claimed they don't exist. They never found any though did they - except for what we already know he had. :wink: |
Big Ozzie
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:05 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Sarin and Mustard gas? I didn't think those were WMD.
Under what category of weapon would you classify them? Water Balloons? :shock:
Saran and Mustard Gases have the ability to take massive casualties. Just because they do not level or incinerate structures does not mean that they are not a WMD.
Every one seems to think "Explosion, Fire and Destroyed Buildings" when you mention WMD's. A Nuclear Bomb is a WMD, Yes? It also goes on destroying and killing for weeks after the initial blast.
Many scientist tried to develop WMD's that would just kill people, not destroy property. That way, the rebuilding is limited to rebuilding the population, not the physical structures. |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:07 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Germ warfare is scarier than most I think! :shock: |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:15 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I think it does matter who sold them to him and for the record I haven't claimed they don't exist. They never found any though did they - except for what we already know he had. :wink:
Brixton is saying they don't exist...I don't care who gave them to him/them as long as we take them from him/them. |
AllisterFiend
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:15 · [Salvaged from Archive]
:lol: just, when people think of weapons of mass destruction, they think of destruction, not death. weapons of mass death. :lol:
I woke up way to early to have an intellectual conversation about stuff... lol |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:20 · [Salvaged from Archive]
:lol: just, when people think of weapons of mass destruction, they think of destruction, not death. weapons of mass death. :lol:
I woke up way to early to have an intellectual conversation about stuff... lol
Destruction of life!
Seriously look up WMD definitions...or type define:WMD in google... |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:24 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Ok Steptoe, final link then I'll leave it
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/22/1421212
I will quote George Bush himself as found in the above link;
''Now, look, I didnt -- part of the reason we went into Iraq was -- the main reason we went into Iraq at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't, but he had the capacity to make weapons of mass destruction.'' George Bush
The above quote is from the USA President himself.
For you again;
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush.
You gunna argue with Bush now Steptoe?
:shock: |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:24 · [Salvaged from Archive]
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:25 · [Salvaged from Archive]
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:25 · [Salvaged from Archive]
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush.
:shock: |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:26 · [Salvaged from Archive]
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush.
So now he's perfect? He's mis-stated and incorrectly announced things in the past. I'll go with the facts.
And for the record, I don't like Bush. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:29 · [Salvaged from Archive]
There's one rule in reporting and thats to quote people exactly, it would be illegal to report a fake quote by a news network.
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush.
So the President says the above, it came out of HIS mouth, but Steptoe still has an answer for it.
Your what we call a little know-it-all mate, arrogant to the full, but I will leave it there, as this is obviusly falling on a pair of deaf ears.
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush. |
AllisterFiend
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:30 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Yeah, but you can't make a mistake about something like that! |
PA
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:31 · [Salvaged from Archive]
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush.
So now he's perfect? He's mis-stated and incorrectly announced things in the past. I'll go with the facts.
And for the record, I don't like Bush.
http://www.filecabi.net/rejected/69.html :lol: |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:32 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Yeah, but you can't make a mistake about something like that!
Exactly. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:50 · [Salvaged from Archive]
You guys are claiming he did and now he cant? What the fuck is this double standard shit? I know for a fact we found chemical weapons...period...end of story. We'll continue this conversation, I just got a call that I have to report to my NCO...I may have to go back in early. I might be over there in time to get some digicam shots of some Sarin for your stubborn ass. |
Brixton
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:53 · [Salvaged from Archive]
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush. |
PA
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 09:57 · [Salvaged from Archive]
You guys are claiming he did and now he cant? What the fuck is this double standard shit? I know for a fact we found chemical weapons...period...end of story. We'll continue this conversation, I just got a call that I have to report to my NCO...I may have to go back in early. I might be over there in time to get some digicam shots of some Sarin for your stubborn ass.
NCO?
is that like Noncommissioned officer? |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 10:02 · [Salvaged from Archive]
So the President says the above, it came out of HIS mouth, but Steptoe still has an answer for it.
Your what we call a little know-it-all mate, arrogant to the full, but I will leave it there, as this is obviusly falling on a pair of deaf ears.
He is also entitled to his opinion which thus far has managed to provoke serious study for those amongst us who have an unbiased view as well as those who have not. Steppman are you of German descent? |
Big Ozzie
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 10:32 · [Salvaged from Archive]
''we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't''
President George Bush.
Quoted FOUR times, Brixton?
You really are becoming quite the Topic Troll, aren't you? |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 11:04 · [Salvaged from Archive]
You can argue semantics all day, but I personally call this mass destruction. Please note many are mere children and babies in arms.
Imagine these are your families. :evil:
The tiny arms on this little guy's chest evidently belong to his little sister:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p152/pigsontoast/boy.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p152/pigsontoast/hal3.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p152/pigsontoast/hal4-…
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p152/pigsontoast/hal2-…
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p152/pigsontoast/hal1.jpg |
tgd_02
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 11:06 · [Salvaged from Archive]
g-damn ^^^^ O.O |
Merrillizer
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 12:18 · [Salvaged from Archive]
This guy is a paranoid/delusional. He is a text book case. His religion is farcical at best, and he creates these facades for himself and his "people", fantasies of a god and all this power that will strike down the non-believers. It's the same bullshit we here from the Christian right-wing, and the same bullshit we here from the Jews by way of the Talmud. Bullshit, nothing more, nothing less. He has created his own little fantasy world through the learning of Middle Eastern fantasies.
If he wants it bad enough, he'll get it. Japan fucked around, and Japan was promptly CORRECTED. If this motherfucker wants some, come get it. He will be vaporized, and his country will be pounded into dust. His pipsqueak "imam" can lick my asshole. A world free his fantasies and fables, and ideas of fanatical revenge, would be much much more enjoyable.
The only thing this fuck needs to pray to, is to the god of the Skinny Punks, because if this stickboy knocked on my front door, I would snap him into pieces, and spit in his face. And I would piss and shit on his whole family. A weakling people who need religious fantasy to help them feel "powerful". WEAKLINGS. Weak minds, weak souls, weak arms, and their faith is delusional.
"god" cant save you now Mahmoud, you will be consumed by your own hate and fantasy. You'll be just another number, another forgotten number. Another forgotten religious fanatic, who got fuckin' erased. |
AllisterFiend
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 12:21 · [Salvaged from Archive]
This guy is a paranoid/delusional. He is a text book case. His religion is farcical at best, and he creates these facades for himself and his "people", fantasies of a god and all this power that will strike down the non-believers. It's the same bullshit we here from the Christian right-wing, and the same bullshit we here from the Jews by way of the Talmud. Bullshit, nothing more, nothing less. He has created his own little fantasy world through the learning of Middle Eastern fantasies.
If he wants it bad enough, he'll get it. Japan fucked around, and Japan was promptly CORRECTED. If this motherfucker wants some, come get it. He will be vaporized, and his country will be pounded into dust. His pipsqueak "imam" can lick my asshole. A world free his fantasies and fables, and ideas of fanatical revenge, would be much much more enjoyable.
The only thing this fuck needs to pray to, is to the god of the Skinny Punks, because if this stickboy knocked on my front door, I would snap him into pieces, and spit in his face. And I would piss and shit on his whole family. A weakling people who need religious fantasy to help them feel "powerful". WEAKLINGS. Weak minds, weak souls, weak arms, and their faith is delusional.
"god" cant save you now Mahmoud, you will be consumed by your own hate and fantasy. You'll be just another number, another forgotten number. Another forgotten religious fanatic, who got fuckin' erased.
dayum! :shock: :lol: |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 12:36 · [Salvaged from Archive]
"The only thing this fuck needs to pray to, is to the god of the Skinny Punks"........LMAO.
"This guy is a paranoid/delusional. He is a text book case"..........not so funny, because it may well be true......and he has the bomb. |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 12:44 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If he wants it bad enough, he'll get it. Japan fucked around, and Japan was promptly CORRECTED. If this motherfucker wants some, come get it.
Japan? Took your lot long enough to 'join in' here dude. Japan was in a much better position than Iran to fight a war too. I hope you understand that the war in Europe wasn't the only war we needed help with here. When you say corrected you mean the A bomb? - I think it wrong to assume American supremacy where this one is concerned. |
!NV!CTUS
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 13:33 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If those stupid middle easterners would just wake up and realize there is no such thing as a devine god, they would be so much better off.
If the US government would get smart and just kill everyone from the middle east, all that oil would be ours.
Kill em all. OMFG.. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 17:24 · [Salvaged from Archive]
So the President says the above, it came out of HIS mouth, but Steptoe still has an answer for it.
Your what we call a little know-it-all mate, arrogant to the full, but I will leave it there, as this is obviusly falling on a pair of deaf ears.
He is also entitled to his opinion which thus far has managed to provoke serious study for those amongst us who have an unbiased view as well as those who have not. Steppman are you of German descent?
Almost 100% German, my grandmother ran from Hitler to the USA in the 40's I believe... |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 18:20 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Now I know where your stubborn logic comes from lol. Glad she got away. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 18:48 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Now I know where your stubborn logic comes from lol. Glad she got away.
Don't make me start pickin' on you Jaba! :P |
jaba
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 20:27 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Now I know where your stubborn logic comes from lol. Glad she got away.
Don't make me start pickin' on you Jaba! :P
Now why would you wanna pick on me Steptoe? :mrgreen: |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 22 Dec 2006, 20:29 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Now I know where your stubborn logic comes from lol. Glad she got away.
Don't make me start pickin' on you Jaba! :P
Now why would you wanna pick on me Steptoe? :mrgreen:
Because you're evil! |
Merrillizer
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 23 Dec 2006, 01:37 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If he wants it bad enough, he'll get it. Japan fucked around, and Japan was promptly CORRECTED. If this motherfucker wants some, come get it.
Japan? Took your lot long enough to 'join in' here dude. Japan was in a much better position than Iran to fight a war too. I hope you understand that the war in Europe wasn't the only war we needed help with here. When you say corrected you mean the A bomb? - I think it wrong to assume American supremacy where this one is concerned.
It's not about "supremacy". It's about reality. If Mahmoud and his delusional faith cronies want to tango with the everday secular American, or anyone secular for that matter, then I invite him to. His ignorance, being blinded by a faith that is delusional, makes him believe that all Americans "think the same". We don't. I want to fight him. He would be smashed into little itty bitty pieces as a human being. He has nothing but his fanatical beliefs, that's it. End of story. Come and get it. Dont be a coward, hiding behind your radical interpretations of the Quran, and your over-the-top Shia logic. He is a fucking twat, and he gets too much attention as far as I am concerned. He battles with threats and flawed logic. He leans on fables and fanaticism, storytelling. Aesops Fables holds more clout. Fantasies rule his world. He is nothing more than the bullshit he conjures up. Nature will take its course, and he will learn one day that his fantasies are no match for nature itself. He could exterminate all Gentiles, all Jews, and everyone else he deems a "non-believer", and nature would still consume him. Sooner rather than later.
Mahmoud, lick my asspipe. I would slam my fists into his face at a high rate of speed, with zero remorse, only malice aforethought. Come get me Iran!!! |
Snuff.
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 24 Dec 2006, 10:38 · [Salvaged from Archive]
From that article...
Strategists at the Pentagon are drawing up plans for devastating bombing raids backed by submarine-launched ballistic missile attacks against Iran's nuclear sites as a "last resort" to block Teheran's efforts to develop an atomic bomb.
Sounds like a plan to me, countries that execute 16 year old girls for not wearing their veil (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5217424.stm) shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
Iran is a massively parrochial society. Furthermore, this emotive media-tripe doesn't gell as a premise for writing off a country's right to nuclear weapons.
Whatever the case, we will not allow Iran to have any nuclear capability. This would indeed be the sole reason to launch an assault, and it will unikely be a Western mission and almost certainly won't be an invasion, Brixton; it will be an Israeli air-strike upon Iranian nuclear facilities in the same way the situation was dealt with a couple of decades ago with the Iraqias. This is an old wound and there is no need to throw this conspiratorial spin into it.
Iraq also never had its own plans for a legitimate oil bourse, Brixton. No idea where you got that from. |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 24 Dec 2006, 10:43 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I was reading this last night after the kiddies went to sleep:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061224/D8M6VAUG0.html |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 24 Dec 2006, 12:27 · [Salvaged from Archive]
From that article...
Strategists at the Pentagon are drawing up plans for devastating bombing raids backed by submarine-launched ballistic missile attacks against Iran's nuclear sites as a "last resort" to block Teheran's efforts to develop an atomic bomb.
Sounds like a plan to me, countries that execute 16 year old girls for not wearing their veil (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5217424.stm) shouldn't be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
Iran is a massively parrochial society. Furthermore, this emotive media-tripe doesn't gell as a premise for writing off a country's right to nuclear weapons.
Whatever the case, we will not allow Iran to have any nuclear capability. This would indeed be the sole reason to launch an assault, and it will unikely be a Western mission and almost certainly won't be an invasion, Brixton; it will be an Israeli air-strike upon Iranian nuclear facilities in the same way the situation was dealt with a couple of decades ago with the Iraqias. This is an old wound and there is no need to throw this conspiratorial spin into it.
Iraq also never had its own plans for a legitimate oil bourse, Brixton. No idea where you got that from.
That was a personal reason sir, I understand a country couldn't disarm any nation using only that as a motive. |
Snuff.
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 31 Dec 2006, 07:03 · [Salvaged from Archive]
That was a personal reason sir, I understand a country couldn't disarm any nation using only that as a motive.
A personal reason for carpet bombing an entire populace, hey? You fit the American Right stereotype perfectly, sir. :roll:
You missed my point, however, that the actions of these provincial Shariah courts do not constitute nor speak for the majority of Iranians.
Ahmadinejad hoped these local elections would consolidate his political power. The voting was days after the Iranian president held a bizarre international conference of Holocaust deniers, which included former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke and a bevy of discredited European pseudo-scholars.
The Iranian public was clearly more impressed by Ahmadinejad's failure to deliver on his populist promises. Iran's economy is sagging despite high oil prices.
More unhappiness with Ahmadinejad was revealed by a highly unusual student demonstration that took place when he visited Amir Kabir University during the week of the Holocaust conference. Iran's student movement has been in disarray, but the president's purge of reform-minded students and professors has infuriated young people.
Students chanted "Death to the dictator" and "Forget the Holocaust -- do something for us." Amazingly, some conservative Iranian media gave this demonstration full coverage, running photos of banners denouncing the president.
That Ahmadinejad's opponents were given such publicity, says Iran expert Vali Nasr, indicates "serious rethinking by the Iranian elite about this guy." Nasr, author of The Shia Revival, believes that key Iranian power brokers are worried that Ahmadinejad's antics will have adverse consequences for Iran.
SOURCE (http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/opinion/16357216.htm)
Iran is neither Iraq nor a lost cause to a stable Middle East. |
fasterspider
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 31 Dec 2006, 09:30 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If those stupid middle easterners would just wake up and realize there is no such thing as a devine god, they would be so much better off.
If the US government would get smart and just kill everyone from the middle east, all that oil would be ours.
Kill em all. OMFG..
What's the problem? I just say what a lot of people feel but are too fucking lame or scared to say.
Kill 'em all :twisted: |
DandruffBGone
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 31 Dec 2006, 10:39 · [Salvaged from Archive]
If those stupid middle easterners would just wake up and realize there is no such thing as a devine god, they would be so much better off.
If the US government would get smart and just kill everyone from the middle east, all that oil would be ours.
Kill em all. OMFG..
What's the problem? I just say what a lot of people feel but are too fucking lame or scared to say.
Kill 'em all :twisted:
Apple. Go to your room. |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 2 Jan 2007, 13:49 · [Salvaged from Archive]
I didn't carpet bomb their country snuff, I was saying that's one of many personal reasons that have contributed to the opinions I have. ;) |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 2 Jan 2007, 13:51 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Iran is neither Iraq nor a lost cause to a stable Middle East.
Time will tell sir, time will tell. ;) |
steppman2
Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 2 Jan 2007, 13:56 · [Salvaged from Archive]
Shut the fuck up boy
Quoted for emphasis... |
