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FileCabi.net Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 09:40 · [Salvaged from Archive] http://www.filecabi.net/video/95699.html |
SheppT Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 16:06 · [Salvaged from Archive] What is the name of the song in this video? |
brightwood_motion Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 16:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] boo for nuclear warfare
who says this shit is progress? |
tyn Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 16:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] Strapping Young Lad - Love
I saw this movie long time ago on a different site and asked the same question.
The song rox and fits this movie perfectly. |
zeguyz Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 17:23 · [Salvaged from Archive] we have ten times the needed atomic bombs to make blow the entire earth |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 17:54 · [Salvaged from Archive] Two questions: How many bombs total have been tested (that we know of)?
Why is there not more fallout?
I've always wondered this, I was born at Hollomon AFB near White Sands, New Mexico. I always make the joke and say I'm a nuclear baby and that only certain parts of me glow in the dark, but really, how is there not more fallout still around? |
Dosage Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 18:31 · [Salvaged from Archive] Two questions: How many bombs total have been tested (that we know of)?
Why is there not more fallout?
I've always wondered this, I was born at Hollomon AFB near White Sands, New Mexico. I always make the joke and say I'm a nuclear baby and that only certain parts of me glow in the dark, but really, how is there not more fallout still around?
Makes you wonder.... Global warming, Hurricane Katrina, the rising number of cancer cases..... Sounds like progress to me! |
nightstrobe Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 18:48 · [Salvaged from Archive] Two questions: How many bombs total have been tested (that we know of)?
Why is there not more fallout?
I've always wondered this, I was born at Hollomon AFB near White Sands, New Mexico. I always make the joke and say I'm a nuclear baby and that only certain parts of me glow in the dark, but really, how is there not more fallout still around?
mostly because of high altitude and underground/water testing,but there is quite a bit of fallout flying around its just spread out enough to not be dangerous. |
DoMo Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 19:15 · [Salvaged from Archive] i doubt it will take long, till one idiot realy pushs the magic red buttom.
I would push it though. The world is just to sick...
da DoMo |
pandamang Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 19:26 · [Salvaged from Archive] Man has gained the ability to do that where once he could only throw sticks and stones.
Unfortunately man still has the sticks and stones mentaility, so I think we're pretty much screwed. |
Apocalypse Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 19:38 · [Salvaged from Archive] We need 'em for when the Martians attack us. |
BobZilla Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 19:40 · [Salvaged from Archive] The largest nuke tested was the USSR, its shockwave went around the earth 3 or 4 times. |
brownbearclan Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 21:50 · [Salvaged from Archive] mostly because of high altitude and underground/water testing,but there is quite a bit of fallout flying around its just spread out enough to not be dangerous.
Well not only that but the radiation does decay over time, although it does take a long ass time.
Pretty decent compilation, but man nukes are scary shit. Intercontinental ballistic missiles are one of the scariest things ever created, but at least countries like the former Soviet Union are using their old missiles to launch large payloads up to the space station and stuff now.
Oh man this compilation is going to get "the_bumtown_fondler" all kinds of upset now lol! Apparently he gets all emotional when it comes to nukes...poor kid. :rolleyes: |
silenthill22 Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 22:52 · [Salvaged from Archive] The Chernobyl incident is enough to scare the shit out of me. That radiation is still going strong there after all these years. Nuclear weapons should never be used. |
Fuck I'm Dead Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 9 Mar 2007, 23:21 · [Salvaged from Archive] Damn, how bad Einstein must have felt after being responsible for making such a thing possible... I don't blame him though, but that's a totally different subject.
Nukes are indeed scary shit. The physical background is fairly impressive, as well as the explosion, but the aftermath isn't so nice at all. Gladly, the largest nuke ever detonated, which was a Russian one by the way, was a quite "clean" one, meaning that it's radioactive fallout was quite marginal, especially compared to neutron bombs for instance. |
The Black Knight Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 01:58 · [Salvaged from Archive] Actually Einstein wasn't the one whom developed the Atomic Bomb. Einstein and a few other physicist came upon Quantum Mechanics which makes nuclear fission possible. You don't need to know Quantum theory to make a atomic bomb, however it is needed in order to make one small enough to fit in the bomb bay of a B-17 bomber.
The man responsible for the first atomic bomb was J. Robert Oppenheimer a.k.a. Father of the Atomic Bomb. It was during a very quick three year period in 1942 to 1945 that Oppenheimer was brought in to spearhead the project. Along with Oppenheimer you had Isidor Rabi, Edward Teller and many other working on this project (Edward Teller the man behind the Hydrogen Bomb).
To answer the question by someone earlier who asked how many detonations have occured. Roughly over 2000. 1000 of them in the deserts of New Mexico and Nevada. Over 700 of those were above ground.
As far as hydrogen's go, the US was the first to build and detonate a hydrogen bomb. Ivy Mike yielded a 10.4 Megaton blast. The largest US hydrogen detonation was Castle Bravo at over 15 megatons. The largest ever hydrogen detonated was Tsar Bomba. A russian hydrogen. It yield a impressive 58 Megatons. Basically all of the firepower used in WWII X10. Reason why it was such a "clean" bomb was it was detonated over 2 miles up in the air. The radiation dissipated before reaching the ground. Also the fact that due to it's design as a fission-fusion-fission bomb, the Russians left out the final fission stage which is where you have your radiation fallout produced.
As for everyone saying Nuclear weapons are a abomination. I only say this. That the men who developed the weapons so long ago, were at war. They saw a means to an end. You also need to do a little research and know that the Allies were in a rush to beat Hitler in producing a Atomic bomb.
So to everyone that says that the US is or was wrong for dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ponder this. Is there any doubt in anyones mind that if Hitler had developed the atomic bomb that he wouldn't use it as we did? Is there any doubt that if he had made the bomb he wouldn't have used it in Stalingrad or in Poland. If Hitler had produced a atomic bomb, he would have used it to master the world. Luckily the German bomb was largly mythical, and that Germany had collapsed sooner then expected. So remember that the bomb was developed for Germany. Japan was showing no signs of surrender if anything they were showing signs of aggression.
When the bomb was finally perfected on July 16th 1945, we knew then it would go to Japan. The point of the two atomic bombs was to show Japan and the rest of the world if war was to be an option we would unleash the dogs of war to our fullest measure. The point was for the world to see the power of this device and take a step back and use their reasoning to resolve conflicts and not war. However mankind is still not learning. And it is my fear that we will see another future application of atomic bombs. It is inevitable that mankind will never settle their petty differences. Wars will continue and again someday we will see another war time application of Atomic weapons..... |
Josh85 Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 06:37 · [Salvaged from Archive] Look out aliens, all your base are belong to us. |
Reaper Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 08:11 · [Salvaged from Archive] That was some interesting reading The Black Knight |
Curmudgeon Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 09:42 · [Salvaged from Archive] Why is there not more fallout?
There are parts of the earth where large-scale hydrogen bombs were tested that are still uninhabitable to this day, some 50 years later. The atmospheric radiation is still there too, but it's a big atmosphere and the radiation is so diffuse/diluted that it is not a threat to our health. |
Fuck I'm Dead Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 10:07 · [Salvaged from Archive] I know that the actual development of the nuclear bomb was done by various other scientists, but Einsteins discoverys greatly helped creating such a weapon, specifically the mass defect/conversion from mass to energy. |
Curmudgeon Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 10:49 · [Salvaged from Archive] The largest ever hydrogen detonated was Tsar Bomba. A russian hydrogen. It yield a impressive 58 Megatons. Basically all of the firepower used in WWII X10.
What really made that bomb scary as hell is that it was small enough that it could be delivered by aircraft. |
Fuck I'm Dead Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 12:02 · [Salvaged from Archive] Quite interesting that the Tsar Bomba was originally desired to have a yield of 100 megatons, but the yield was scaled down to reduce the radioactive fallout, which I'm thankful for. |
silenthill22 Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 13:31 · [Salvaged from Archive] I was just watching a documentary called Hitler's Arsenal and the U.S. stopped a German U-Boat on it's way to Japan with nuclear shit to stick in Japanese weapons. The Japanese had already planned and prepared the attack and was just waiting for the German boat to deliver. They was going to nuke San Francisco! This was 11 days before Hiroshima. :eek: This was the first I ever heard of that. |
iknowmorethanyouperiod Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 17:01 · [Salvaged from Archive] humans rock soxs! seriously....... |
imbeginner Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 17:43 · [Salvaged from Archive] those explotion are too small. we need more powerful weapon, something that can blow up entire continent with one hit, that makes conquering the world much easier. only one country & one race shall remain standing on earth. |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 18:57 · [Salvaged from Archive] What really made that bomb scary as hell is that it was small enough that it could be delivered by aircraft.
which bomb in the video is this one? or is it not in there at all? |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 18:59 · [Salvaged from Archive] I was just watching a documentary called Hitler's Arsenal and the U.S. stopped a German U-Boat on it's way to Japan with nuclear shit to stick in Japanese weapons. The Japanese had already planned and prepared the attack and was just waiting for the German boat to deliver. They was going to nuke San Francisco! This was 11 days before Hiroshima. :eek: This was the first I ever heard of that.
What program and channel was it? i dunno if your in the US or elsewhere, but if you're in the US I might have to try to find that show, that's interesting, I've never heard of that either. |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 19:01 · [Salvaged from Archive] those explotion are too small. we need more powerful weapon, something that can blow up entire continent with one hit, that makes conquering the world much easier. only one country & one race shall remain standing on earth.
shut up hitler youth and go back to your mommy's basement and pretend "white power" is the answer.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f225/adamevansville/M0F…
and for your information, most of the US arsenel (i dont know about the rest of the world) are one Kiloton or greater. If you can add, you'll know how powerful that is. |
silenthill22 Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 19:35 · [Salvaged from Archive] What program and channel was it? i dunno if your in the US or elsewhere, but if you're in the US I might have to try to find that show, that's interesting, I've never heard of that either.
It is an episode of Dead Men's Secrets from the History Channel.
http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=76385 |
Asskicker Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 20:50 · [Salvaged from Archive] International nuclear laws were established during JFK days. Also, theoretically you never mess with those who possess them (Ozzy's Thank God For The Bomb) unless your a suicidal nation. DO YOU know of any suicidal nation? I think you do and they are a threat. Like as if they really need nuclear power with all that oil. Secret wars have been going on since 1991, the first WTC attack. Then in 1995 flight 800 was shot down. Internationally buildings have been coming down, planes shot out of the sky randomly and suicide attacks. AND YOU want to say that Bush started some war? Then you ignore a lot of evidence in the name of being a "victim" with much less responsibility. Apparently Iraq is suicide central making it the perfect place for America to be! Are you not sick of all the suicide attacks yet or does your personal airplane or building need to be shot down to convince you? :D :mad2: |
wannabe me Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 10 Mar 2007, 21:18 · [Salvaged from Archive] I was just watching a documentary called Hitler's Arsenal and the U.S. stopped a German U-Boat on it's way to Japan with nuclear shit to stick in Japanese weapons. The Japanese had already planned and prepared the attack and was just waiting for the German boat to deliver. They was going to nuke San Francisco! This was 11 days before Hiroshima. :eek: This was the first I ever heard of that.
Japan nuking San Fransisco... Hmmm.... I have mixed feelings about that. :) |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 01:19 · [Salvaged from Archive] It is an episode of Dead Men's Secrets from the History Channel.
http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=76385
thank you.:rasta: |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 01:20 · [Salvaged from Archive] Japan nuking San Fransisco... Hmmm.... I have mixed feelings about that. :)
puts a spin on bending over and kissing your ass goodbye doesn't it? |
Curmudgeon Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 04:09 · [Salvaged from Archive] which bomb in the video is this one? or is it not in there at all?
I don't know if there is any footage of Tsar Bomba in this video; but any of these bombs could have been delivered by aircraft (and as you see, some of them actually are). |
jonmcc33 Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 04:30 · [Salvaged from Archive] Nice video but I don't need the death metal, thanks. |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 08:22 · [Salvaged from Archive] I don't know if there is any footage of Tsar Bomba in this video; but any of these bombs could have been delivered by aircraft (and as you see, some of them actually are).
do you know if any exists to the public? I'm actually completely unfamiliar with the Tsar Bomba. Not as up to speed on my 'nuklar' warfare as I should be I guess..:1zhelp: |
Roflcopterz Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 15:27 · [Salvaged from Archive] Atomic Bombs shouldnt ever of been created. This is stuff that could blow up the whole world. |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 11 Mar 2007, 18:15 · [Salvaged from Archive] Atomic Bombs shouldnt ever of been created. This is stuff that could blow up the whole world.
where's bill ingvall with his "here's your sign" routine? |
faustius Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 06:15 · [Salvaged from Archive] All I can say is, I'd hate to live in Seattle. Half the US nuclear arsenal is located there.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v323/faustius/WebGraphi…
Link to bigger image:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/faustius/WebGraphi… |
Kayato Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 12:02 · [Salvaged from Archive] There is many video of Tzar Bomba.......search on wiki or atomicforum.....is dropped by plane at is was 50MT |
Fuck I'm Dead Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 15:57 · [Salvaged from Archive] There is many video of Tzar Bomba.......search on wiki or atomicforum.....is dropped by plane at is was 50MT
True. But it still isn't a valuable weapon for bombing a country as the plane would be a fairly easy target for anti-air weapons... The russians probably only build it because their targeting techniques weren't as developed as the American's (instead of aiming directly at your target, just let everything around it go to hell). It wouldn't work in today's wars though, as well as back then. |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 16:24 · [Salvaged from Archive] True. But it still isn't a valuable weapon for bombing a country as the plane would be a fairly easy target for anti-air weapons...
stealth airplanes, ever heard of them?
The russians probably only build it because their targeting techniques weren't as developed as the American's
Wrong. The USSR was definitly in control as far as technology, they just ran out of money. If they had more money back then, we'd most likley be sitting on a fried ant hill instead of "earth".
It wouldn't work in today's wars though, as well as back then.
So we should stop being scared of North Korea, China, India, Pakistan, UK, Russia, France, USA, and possibly Iran then right? |
producerflie Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 18:44 · [Salvaged from Archive] I don't know if there is any footage of Tsar Bomba in this video; but any of these bombs could have been delivered by aircraft (and as you see, some of them actually are).
The Tsar Bomba is in the video.. It is the last bomb in the video at the 5:32 mark, with a parachute behind it, being dropped from the Russian bomber. From what I have read the parachute was only used so the bomber would have enough time to escape the blast. There is a good video documentary about it on google video.
Another good documentary about atomic bombs and experiments is "Trinity and Beyond". I think it is now available in HD. |
Blueline Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 12 Mar 2007, 22:08 · [Salvaged from Archive] Nice video but I don't need the death metal, thanks.
Death metal is imperative in these cases, and most others. lol
I think ~Megadeth, Set the world afire~ might have been a good choice too. |
Rhomphaia Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 01:43 · [Salvaged from Archive] Back to the fathers of nuclear weapons...people are forgetting Enrico Fermi, who developed the first atomic fission reactor, and thus proving nuclear fission was possible.
They cut off the Tsar Bomba footage and didn't show the actual cloud produced...the damn thing was a monster nuke.
As for everyone who says nukes shouldn't have been invented, listen to this;
Yes, they are terrible weapons, but mankind's history has been pockmarked with developing terrible weapons...and later, almost every single time, those weapons turn into something wonderful. Nukes are going through this same process as we speak.
As disastrous as the after effects of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were, the radiation sickness they produced inspired doctors. They looked at the damage the radiation was doing to these people and thought 'hmm, what might this do to a tumor?' and began researching a way to focus radiation of different sorts to zap cancerous tumors. The result is modern radiation therapy. Granted RT is still dangerous and sucks for the person going through it, but they are now developing ways to actually shape the radiation so precisely that the projected radiation doesn't need to go through healthy flesh at all (yes it's wierd, but a hospital in my area has one of the test units).
Also, nuclear weapons have given us insight into the workings of the universe and how to look beyond our own solar system. Another thing they have provided is a very powerful deterrent against large, full scale wars like WWII. There were a lot of tense incidents (Cuba Missile Crisis anyone) but ultimately, nukes were the reason full-blown war was averted in these circumstances.
In all, I would say that nuclear weapons have done more good than harm, and in the future, we will eventually phase them out but right now we need them whether we realize it or not. |
PHXSUNSR#1 Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 12:46 · [Salvaged from Archive] Oh yeah, I remember about four of these, I was there standing within yards from them. Pretty devastating if you ask me. |
Fuck I'm Dead Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 14:36 · [Salvaged from Archive] stealth airplanes, ever heard of them?
Wrong. The USSR was definitly in control as far as technology, they just ran out of money. If they had more money back then, we'd most likley be sitting on a fried ant hill instead of "earth".
So we should stop being scared of North Korea, China, India, Pakistan, UK, Russia, France, USA, and possibly Iran then right?
Welcome to the internet, where everyone calls someone else stupid for no reason. Oh, and l2read. |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 15:56 · [Salvaged from Archive] Welcome to the internet, where everyone calls someone else stupid for no reason. Oh, and l2read.
no i called you stupid because you said something stupid. read again. either way, argue it all you want, i'm still right. not to be a cocky asshole, but it's true.
sorry, i'm not up to speed on internet lingo, what does "l2read" mean? Learn to read? You should take your own advice.
I'll fuck off when you use some common sense. thank you, enjoy the nice weather today.
-Imbalanced |
Fuck I'm Dead Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 17:23 · [Salvaged from Archive] no i called you stupid because you said something stupid. read again. either way, argue it all you want, i'm still right. not to be a cocky asshole, but it's true.
sorry, i'm not up to speed on internet lingo, what does "l2read" mean? Learn to read? You should take your own advice.
I'll fuck off when you use some common sense. thank you, enjoy the nice weather today.
-Imbalanced
Learn to read, you got that one right. And I'm not in the mood to argue with you, simply because I got better things to do than explaining you some basic aspects of reading comprehension, if you don't get my point (I'm referring to your last quote), that's fine with me because the relevance of some random guys opinion on the internet goes towards zero for me. Saying that you are right no matter what I can do to disprove your points already disqualifies you for any discussion, so I'll just leave it at that: I'm out, have a nice day :smokin: |
Imbalanced Salvaged from Archive | Posted: 13 Mar 2007, 17:57 · [Salvaged from Archive] referring to what last quote. about the countries that are known to have nuclear weapons or are suspected of having nuclear weapons? come on, this is a forum, lets debate the topic. |