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  1. godschildSalvaged from archive20 Dec 2005, 09:15
    Lots of topics end up being a war debate so lets see who will bring it in here. For or against ? State your opinion and be ready to back it up.
  2. shittySalvaged from archive20 Dec 2005, 10:20
    Kill them there before they kill us here...it just makes more sense. http://x1.putfile.com/9/26410252472.jpg (http://shittycat.proboards51.com/index.cgi) Shit
  3. GrimmancerSalvaged from archive29 Dec 2005, 03:56
    War on Terror, Hell Yeah... Now is Iraq part of that I think so, come-on we are not stupid he might have gotten rid of the WMD and stuff but he was up to no good... and to really stop this conversation short, WE HAVE HAD THE RIGHT, YES THE RIGHT TO GO IN FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS... He broke the treaty so many times it is not even funny... it was a treaty... an honor bound agreement that he broke over and over and over and over again... ASK the fucking Kurds... I Know I was there I have fucking seen the shit he has done and did but cause of the WAR on Terror he will never do again... for all you librial and peace monger hippies, remember one fucking thing it is people like me that keep you and your values safe... it might be a fine line I walk between good and evil but least I got the balls to walk that line and not just hide behind my so called values and burry my head so far up my ass that I never really see the truth of what this world is and what people are like... You want freedom, you want respect but your not ready to earn either of them... (This was not to any one person, just any of the hippies that might have read it) But back to my point... WE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO MARCH INTO IRAQ and not give any of the fucking world an answer cept that they broke the treaty... thanks and hope everyone has a great new year! Grimm
  4. sarge222Salvaged from archive30 Dec 2005, 04:02
    I say kill em all and let em find out the 70 virgin's promise was a lie for themselves!
  5. Pimp On TuesdaySalvaged from archive30 Dec 2005, 04:22
    I say kill em all and let em find out the 70 virgin's promise was a lie for themselves! I think it was 72..But you know..I see your one of the Big doggs around here so... :D & i also agree!!
  6. ChebSalvaged from archive31 Dec 2005, 03:51
    Take a guess to who cast the vote against the war on terror. Yup it was me. Not because I support terrorism, but because everyone has the war on terror confused with the war on Iraq and Afghanistan. It is true that the war on Afghanistan started with the intention of flushing out terrorists, but the truth is it did practically nothing. People are still blowing things up everywhere and Bin Laden is still out there. As for the war on Iraq. That had NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with the war on terror. It started out with faulty information about WMD, then after they realized that there are no WMD's in Iraq, they picked another reason to invade. Operation Iraqi freedom. That was to take a man that they put in power, well, out of power. It is true Sudam was a fucked up dictator that could be compared to Hitler, but the fact is that the war had nothing to do with terror. In the process more than 100,000 Iraqi Civilians and 2000 Americans were killed. The number will rise even more. So yes I support the war on terror, but only if it is really a war on terror.
  7. GrimmancerSalvaged from archive31 Dec 2005, 04:37
    Iraq had everything to do with terror, saying that it did not, is like saying Cambodia never helped the VC during Vietnam... and again shit I would have gone in there long long ago just cause they broke the treaty and I am sorry if the pres, Clinton... He is in my book with Carter and Johnson as being some of the worst Pres that ever happened to America... but anyway sorry if our Pres at the time did not have the balls to stand up and say “You broke a treaty, now your gonna pay”... shit he didnt even have the balls to say that oral sex was sexual relations ...they had an 8 year run it is over now... Though I would have been forthright and said that I am going in cause they broke the treaty and not try to sugar coat it with the whole WMD deal, which I still think he had but because of our delay he was able to ship most of it over to Syria.... but anyway yes Iraq is part of the battlefront... and not to be a bastard about it... just a smart soldier... Let the battles take place in their lands not mine... I personally think that the USA should be in constant conflict to make sure our troops are always up to date... We learned once from Vietnam - we went in with green troops against an army that was fighting the french for over 10 years... We learn from our mistakes... never again will we send green troops in against hard core soldiers... Afghanistan was just a training ground for us...And will be for many years... and people are yes still blowing things up, but not here not on my soil... now they are blowing shit up were people like me are trained to kill them... it makes it much harder for them needless to say... did you know that after WWII that Germany and the Nazis also had terrorists after we liberated them, bombs were going off, people died but in the long run we stuck it out and now look at it... DID you know that MacArthur after he took japan made sure that the Emperor did not die, made sure that the emperor walked around with him... If the emperor did not do that they would still be fighting for him, but because the emperor recognized MacArthur as his superior they laid down their arms and rebuilt... Yes Iraq is one of the many battle fronts we have on the war on terror....We not only had the right to be there...we would have been stupid not to go in..
  8. sarge222Salvaged from archive31 Dec 2005, 10:25
    Iraq had everything to do with terror, saying that it did not, is like saying Cambodia never helped the VC during Vietnam... and again shit I would have gone in there long long ago just cause they broke the treaty and I am sorry if the pres, Clinton... He is in my book with Carter and Johnson as being some of the worst Pres that ever happened to America... but anyway sorry if our Pres at the time did not have the balls to stand up and say “You broke a treaty, now your gonna pay”... shit he didnt even have the balls to say that oral sex was sexual relations ...they had an 8 year run it is over now... Though I would have been forthright and said that I am going in cause they broke the treaty and not try to sugar coat it with the whole WMD deal, which I still think he had but because of our delay he was able to ship most of it over to Syria.... but anyway yes Iraq is part of the battlefront... and not to be a bastard about it... just a smart soldier... Let the battles take place in their lands not mine... I personally think that the USA should be in constant conflict to make sure our troops are always up to date... We learned once from Vietnam - we went in with green troops against an army that was fighting the french for over 10 years... We learn from our mistakes... never again will we send green troops in against hard core soldiers... Afghanistan was just a training ground for us...And will be for many years... and people are yes still blowing things up, but not here not on my soil... now they are blowing shit up were people like me are trained to kill them... it makes it much harder for them needless to say... did you know that after WWII that Germany and the Nazis also had terrorists after we liberated them, bombs were going off, people died but in the long run we stuck it out and now look at it... DID you know that MacArthur after he took japan made sure that the Emperor did not die, made sure that the emperor walked around with him... If the emperor did not do that they would still be fighting for him, but because the emperor recognized MacArthur as his superior they laid down their arms and rebuilt... Yes Iraq is one of the many battle fronts we have on the war on terror....We not only had the right to be there...we would have been stupid not to go in.. I might of said it differently, but I would have said it! :lol: Good job Grim!
  9. sarge222Salvaged from archive31 Dec 2005, 10:29
    I say kill em all and let em find out the 70 virgin's promise was a lie for themselves! I think it was 72..But you know..I see your one of the Big doggs around here so... :D & i also agree!! So I shorted them 2... either way.. their gonna be disappointed when they get to wherever it is they end up and they realize they had a better shot at virgins alive. :lol: As for being a Big Dog... I volunteer to help out.. Im a normal grunt around here just like you... oh and I hate ass kissers! :lol:
  10. Pimp On TuesdaySalvaged from archive31 Dec 2005, 14:04
    I say kill em all and let em find out the 70 virgin's promise was a lie for themselves! I think it was 72..But you know..I see your one of the Big doggs around here so... :D & i also agree!! So I shorted them 2... either way.. their gonna be disappointed when they get to wherever it is they end up and they realize they had a better shot at virgins alive. :lol: As for being a Big Dog... I volunteer to help out.. Im a normal grunt around here just like you... oh and I hate ass kissers! :lol: then stop kissing my ass!! :shock:
  11. DirktheSlasherMcGuireSalvaged from archive2 Jan 2006, 09:32
    Kill them there before they kill us here...it just makes more sense Perhaps that's what they were thinking as well. I vote against it.
  12. OverlordSalvaged from archive5 Jan 2006, 20:43
    I voted against it, but not because I'm anti-war or democrat, I just don't like how this has ended up. It's time to send our boys home and let the Iraqis die for their freedom for a change. I don't think an Iraqi is worth US lives at this point. They need their own government and we already built our bases to threaten Iran so what are we waiting for?
  13. lippy05Salvaged from archive13 Jan 2006, 02:14
    have you ever talked to marines overlord? i live with some and and have marine teachers.. they all want to go over there and find it the most honorable thing to do. Several people I know have service selected marine ground/air and cant wait to get out there.. marines are crazy and want to do their job no matter what. i go to the naval academy btw
  14. OverlordSalvaged from archive14 Jan 2006, 02:23
    my brother is an intelligence officer in the US navy. He was a major part of the air war a couple years ago in Iraq operating off a carrier. Would I have him die for some Iraqi? Absolutely not. If they want freedom then they need to fight for it themselves. My entire family is military and I support the troops 100%. I do NOT support our leaders for sending them over there. I don't think bringing freedom to Iraq is worth US lives. I would rather we had built our bases and let them figure out their own government. Let them vote. Give them control. If they fuck it up. Invade them again, this time from within (are bases are already over there).
  15. GrimmancerSalvaged from archive14 Jan 2006, 05:54
    have you ever talked to marines overlord? i live with some and and have marine teachers.. they all want to go over there and find it the most honorable thing to do. Several people I know have service selected marine ground/air and cant wait to get out there.. marines are crazy and want to do their job no matter what. I go to the naval academy btw We do want to our job, but we are not crazy, nor do we do it for any sort of glory, we do it cause it is our job, we are Americas fists, and nobody can stand toe to toe with America because of us. I have gone where they send me, and know that I have left a trail of honor in my wake. Americans should be happy and proud, of not only the Marines but all that serve... Libby05 thanks for serving! Though it will be weird calling you sir. --Cause you seem so young to me (not in a bad way mind you) I am sure you will see combat, this is long from over...
  16. GrimmancerSalvaged from archive14 Jan 2006, 06:06
    my brother is an intelligence officer in the US navy. He was a major part of the air war a couple years ago in Iraq operating off a carrier. Would I have him die for some Iraqi? Absolutely not. If they want freedom then they need to fight for it themselves. My entire family is military and I support the troops 100%. I do NOT support our leaders for sending them over there. I don't think bringing freedom to Iraq is worth US lives. I would rather we had built our bases and let them figure out their own government. Let them vote. Give them control. If they fuck it up. Invade them again, this time from within (are bases are already over there). My hat is off to your brother and your family, thanks for serving! But we cant just leave right now, yes we have the bases that we need, yes many of the secret goalsl I think we really wanted has been achieved but leaving now would just be another smack in the face of our honor, we already did that back in the late 80's early 90's, we did it again in the Gulf War, we can say that we are there for you and then not back it up, we have done that too many times already, and that alone was much fuel for the fire for them to hate us... We NEED to be there for at least another 5 years for any of accomplishments to even have any bearing... lets not blow smoke out of our ass again, and tell them we are with them, only to turn our backs cause we are spoiled little pussies... As in WWII lets finish this job! people said the same thing about Japan, but back then we had men of valor and balls that would stick it out to the very end... withdrawing now would not only show our weakness, it will also show that we have no heart nor valor... two things I personally would die for
  17. crazyjoeSalvaged from archive14 Jan 2006, 07:31
    About war on Terror - I voted for it, since terrorism is bad..lol And I support our troops 100% because they can do something that I probably could never do: kill another person. War on Iraq: Well they've had elections that weren't fixed. That's a plus. Lets see where it goes. :)
  18. lippy05Salvaged from archive14 Jan 2006, 17:33
    I know it has nothing to do with glory or anything like that.. im just saying marines stick to the rule that the misson must be completed.. we recently lost all our marines that were stationed here because they are being sent over seas.. i honestly dont know what to think over the war in Iraq but i do want Iraq to take control more than they already are. my hat is off to you grimmancer for serving in the marines, but dont worry about calling me sir because i have to call everyone sir right now being a freshman and im older than some of my upperclass :/ but one day i too will be out somewhere hopefully as a pilot
  19. GrimmancerSalvaged from archive15 Jan 2006, 02:29
    Best wishes to you Lippy05! SIR! ;) The Iraq force right now can not hope to stand alone against what is comming at them, we can not abandon them now in their hour of need... it is not a civil war 1000s of hardcore muslims are joining from all across the globe... We can not turn our backs on them (people wanting freedom and willing to die for it as we have) again... as we have done in our past it is one reason we are hated in the world, bad choices by our past leaders... lets not make the same mistakes and pull out before the job is done... it might cost american lives but if we just leave now it will cost us even more... If we would have stayed and helped the Afgan people out in 91, Bin Laden would never have come to the power he has, and 9-11 never would have happened... for once since WWII lets do the right thing and stick it out not only for them but for our honor, and Americas reputation
  20. godschildSalvaged from archive15 Jan 2006, 03:50
    The dip shit runnin Iran is going to keep us on the right track. Bush still has three years left and he ain't gonna piss around with that jerk-off for long. I am not a BUSH fan by any means but I am so glad he is turning his attention to the real heart of the matter. For to long all of our Presidents have played cat and mouse with these fuckers.
  21. OverlordSalvaged from archive16 Jan 2006, 19:23
    lets not blow smoke out of our ass again, and tell them we are with them, only to turn our backs cause we are spoiled little pussies... As in WWII lets finish this job! people said the same thing about Japan, but back then we had men of valor and balls that would stick it out to the very end... withdrawing now would not only show our weakness, it will also show that we have no heart nor valor... two things I personally would die for You're actually born about 60 years too late. The real strength, valor and heart in America was born during the great depression, cared passionately for their liberties and died fighting for it during WWII, Korea and eventualy Vietnam. Now that great generation has passed to the spoiled baby boomers and now generation X which is so lame they care more about internet porn and American Idol than international relations, valor or honor. You can blame us (my Generation of twentysomethings), our lazy parents (the baby boomers), or the great generation that worked so hard so we wouldn't have to (and we didn't). I salute your bravado but I'm afraid those opportunities have passed. This (unfortunately) is the MTV generation which inherited the world from a generation that said "tune in, drop out, drop acid". Americans would rather pass a bill like the Patriot Act and wash away our freedoms for a little security from a couple thousand terrorists and that would have made a WWII vet's head explode. I hate the US in it's present form and I hope we grow up from being a bunch of international crybabies and take some real responsibility someday. Greed (capitalism) is a poor system of government. We need to become a great people again and join in the world community instead of shitting on it.
  22. lippy05Salvaged from archive17 Jan 2006, 21:24
    Yes, that may be true in some ways but there are those that are still willing to die for our country and protect this "MTV Generation" so that they won't have to worry about anything. Capitalism brought us to the top maybe at some cost of national honor? but we are America and those of us in the military see it as the one thing we are obligated to protect and serve.
  23. OverlordSalvaged from archive18 Jan 2006, 18:40
    You say that: "there are those that are still willing to die for our country..." which part? The capitalism, the liberty, freedom of speech, which ideal is it? To be honest, from what most soldiers on the front line claim to be fighting for are their brothers in arms and not the burreacrats and ideals. Once the lead starts flying most only fight to survive. You also said: "Capitalism brought us to the top maybe at some cost of national honor?" No capitalism didn't not bring us to the top. Being the most industrialized nation that still had a functioning infrastucture standing after WWII was. Wait and see who is in charge over the next 50 years. We're wasting of our resources policing the world and the world is only too happy to let us continue to do it while badmouthing us at the same time. I don't want to belittle your sacrifice lippy05. Actually I respect it and honor it so much that I want it to be protected and used only as it should be, to protect American Citizens. Not to serve the ends of some burreacrat or to line the pockets of corporate cronies like Halliburton. I'm deeply troubled that the governmental legislation lately only protects the corporations and sometimes at the expense of the liberty and rights of the US citizens. Imminent Domain, nonbelievers?
  24. Muchachs_17Salvaged from archive25 Jun 2006, 13:05
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  25. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 00:27
    Do I need to tell anyone how I voted ? :lol: :twisted: Grimmancer..Sarge...where have you been all my post? :lol: Very nice points. Straight to the points. Good posts. Cheb, stop running yourself in denial. We have found WMD's in Iraq. If you stop the war on terror just what do you "peace nicks" think is going to happen? And just what are you saying when you say your agains't the war on terrorism? I find such thinking absurd. We pretty much ignored terrorism for far too long. Damn the reasons the terrorists have they no longer matter and it's fundamentalism anyway that hates us. They are much like those insane asses at Westboro Baptist Church..you know the "Crazy Religious Lady" on FOX. Except they go much farther and have much more influence through the twisting of the words of their religion. It has gone beyond reasons. There can be no negotiations. We must find the snakes' heads and cut them off. We must grind them down to the ground. Lest they nip us in our heels as we run away...and keep on nipping and nipping. 9/11 was a pretty GD big nip. What do you "peace nicks" want next? A fission explosion in your so safe city? An anthrax crop duster? More explosions? It damn sure won't be safe if you have your ways. Then...then what shall you say? Think about it. Amendment: Isolationism DOES NOT work. Read your history. WW II anyone?
  26. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 00:51
    You say that: "there are those that are still willing to die for our country..." which part? The capitalism, the liberty, freedom of speech, which ideal is it? To be honest, from what most soldiers on the front line claim to be fighting for are their brothers in arms and not the burreacrats and ideals. Once the lead starts flying most only fight to survive. You also said: "Capitalism brought us to the top maybe at some cost of national honor?" No capitalism didn't not bring us to the top. Being the most industrialized nation that still had a functioning infrastucture standing after WWII was. Wait and see who is in charge over the next 50 years. We're wasting of our resources policing the world and the world is only too happy to let us continue to do it while badmouthing us at the same time. I don't want to belittle your sacrifice lippy05. Actually I respect it and honor it so much that I want it to be protected and used only as it should be, to protect American Citizens. Not to serve the ends of some burreacrat or to line the pockets of corporate cronies like Halliburton. I'm deeply troubled that the governmental legislation lately only protects the corporations and sometimes at the expense of the liberty and rights of the US citizens. Imminent Domain, nonbelievers? They are willing to die for our freedom and always have been. Of course they fight to survive ..to survive and serve this good country which so many claim is bad these days. Those that serve are honored. They are willing to die to protect us from terrorist attacks like those of 9/11 or something much much worse. Capitalism made this country great period. What form of government would you prefer that would have made us great? You look at all the bad..and don't see enough or any of the good. I call you on speculation and facts out of context opinions on your view of our government.
  27. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 00:56
    Damn I just realized how old this thread was. :lol: Muchachs_17 why did you dig this back up from way back?
  28. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 01:11
    EVIL- Who are you talking to? Yo man, do you even look at the dates on the posts that are here? This is an old thread, DUDE!!! Last posted in January of this year, this topic was just brought to the surface by a "newbie" named "Muchachs_17" with an intelligent statement of "up!". Grimmacer and Sarge haven't posted in months (Grimmancer since 5/15 and is temporary "predisposed" so will not reply to your post) and Sarge has been "MIA" since 1 Feb where he posted "I resign" and walked off the face of the Earth! Even Overlord has been off the site for the last two weeks or so........so Bro, if you are trying to argue a point...there is no opposition, just a dead topic that had one last "Hurrah" because a "newbie" inadvertently posted in it. SHIT, even I am out of here......off to work it is 2am.
  29. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 01:16
    EVIL- Who are you talking to? Yo man, do you even look at the dates on the posts that are here? This is an old thread, DUDE!!! Last posted in January of this year, this topic was just brought to the surface by a "newbie" named "Muchachs_17" with an intelligent statement of "up!". Grimmacer and Sarge haven't posted in months (Grimmancer since 5/15 and is temporary "predisposed" so will not reply to your post) and Sarge has been "MIA" since 1 Feb where he posted "I resign" and walked off the face of the Earth! Even Overlord has been off the site for the last two weeks or so........so Bro, if you are trying to argue a point...there is no opposition, just a dead topic that had one last "Hurrah" because a "newbie" inadvertently posted in it. SHIT, even I am out of here......off to work it is 2am. Yeah I realized that in the post above yours. Jan-Jun looked the same for a moment. :o :evil:
  30. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 01:19
    MUAHAHAHAhahahahahahah............. You CRACK me UP, evil type dude! Looking so hard for someone to fight and flame that you thought you somehow missed a HOT TOPIC! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: http://www.collagefoundation.org/grind/160cp_homer_simpso… I"m all alone!
  31. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 01:21
    MUAHAHAHAhahahahahahah............. You CRACK me UP, evil type dude! Looking so hard for someone to fight and flame that you thought you somehow missed a HOT TOPIC! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: http://www.collagefoundation.org/grind/160cp_homer_simpso… I"m all alone! Well at least I get the last word. :twisted: :lol: :lol:
  32. Rocker KidSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 01:25
    I am against the war. Because I don't want my only brother to die.
  33. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 01:29
    I am against the war. Because I don't want my only brother to die. A valid fear if your brother is fighting over there. Hopefully all will be well with him. I know it's personal if so..but there were hundreds of brothers that died on 9/11 and if we pull back now the terrorists I guarantee will not stop. It will only incourage them. That is their way.
  34. Rocker KidSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 01:36
    I am against the war. Because I don't want my only brother to die. A valid fear if your brother is fighting over there. Hopefully all will be well with him. I know it's personal if so..but there were hundreds of brothers that died on 9/11 and if we pull back now the terrorists I guarantee will not stop. It will only incourage them. That is their way. He's not fighting yet. I think he's going to Germany soon though. None of those guys who died on 9/11 were my brother. I know it sounds selfish but I don't care about them nearly as much as I could ever care about my brother. I know they're sombody's brother/sister/kid. And I have compassion for them too and I don't think they should die for a war they did not start. I don't know how else to stop the terrorists though.
  35. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 02:00
    He's not fighting yet. I think he's going to Germany soon though. None of those guys who died on 9/11 were my brother. I know it sounds selfish but I don't care about them nearly as much as I could ever care about my brother. I know they're sombody's brother/sister/kid. And I have compassion for them too and I don't think they should die for a war they did not start. I don't know how else to stop the terrorists though. It's not wrong to feel that way..perfectly natural. It always hits harder when it's closer to home. It's just if we give up on things and tuck tail back and become isolationists again worse things than 9/11 could happen. It could happen to me, my family, your family ,anyones family. I'm not going to say a terrorist behind every door...but they(terrorists) would not let bygones be bygones. I know I sound like a fear monger , but it's just the truth. We can't just sit by and bend to nutcases that kill our innocent people to further their what? Hatred of America.
  36. Rocker KidSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 02:05
    He's not fighting yet. I think he's going to Germany soon though. None of those guys who died on 9/11 were my brother. I know it sounds selfish but I don't care about them nearly as much as I could ever care about my brother. I know they're sombody's brother/sister/kid. And I have compassion for them too and I don't think they should die for a war they did not start. I don't know how else to stop the terrorists though. It's not wrong to feel that way..perfectly natural. It always hits harder when it's closer to home. It's just if we give up on things and tuck tail back and become isolationists again worse things than 9/11 could happen. It could happen to me, my family, your family ,anyones family. I'm not going to say a terrorist behind every door...but they(terrorists) would not let bygones be bygones. I know I sound like a fear monger , but it's just the truth. We can't just sit by and bend to nutcases that kill our innocent people to further their what? Hatred of America. If we stop terrorists now new ones will come back in years. Damn.
  37. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 02:12
    If we stop terrorists now new ones will come back in years. Damn. Islamic fundalmentalism is a cornerstone of terrorism. We need to sledgehammer that cornerstone. We are stopping/killing/capturing terrorists...and new ones will of course pop up. However if we stay at it..they will be hard pressed to do anymore 9/11's and even harder pressed to keep gathering followers.
  38. Rocker KidSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 02:13
    If we stop terrorists now new ones will come back in years. Damn. Islamic fundalmentalism is a cornerstone of terrorism. We need to sledgehammer that cornerstone. We are stopping/killing/capturing terrorists...and new ones will of course pop up. However if we stay at it..they will be hard pressed to do anymore 9/11's and even harder pressed to keep gathering followers. True. But still isn't their another way besides war?
  39. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 02:30
    True. But still isn't their another way besides war? We are using other ways..there are not many non-violent actions you can do unless you wish to surrender to terrorism and all their insane demands. The main one of which is "DEATH TO AMERICA".
  40. Rocker KidSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 02:41
    True. But still isn't their another way besides war? We are using other ways..there are not many non-violent actions you can do unless you wish to surrender to terrorism and all their insane demands. The main one of which is "DEATH TO AMERICA". Yeah but I don't think the war is really helping much. More soldiers seem to be getting killed than justice being served. :?
  41. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 02:58
    Yeah but I don't think the war is really helping much. More soldiers seem to be getting killed than justice being served. :? Whenever they actively engage us we utterly annihilate them. The problem is they are cowards. Like a dog that would bark in your face and run if you flinched at it, but then bite you in the ass or leg as soon as you turn your back. They are being eradicated however. We shall prevail we cannot afford not too.
  42. Rocker KidSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 03:24
    Yeah but I don't think the war is really helping much. More soldiers seem to be getting killed than justice being served. :? Whenever they actively engage us we utterly annihilate them. The problem is they are cowards. Like a dog that would bark in your face and run if you flinched at it, but then bite you in the ass or leg as soon as you turn your back. They are being eradicated however. We shall prevail we cannot afford not too. How do you know this will be soon? Some people say it will take maybe 15 years to stablize them as a country....
  43. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 03:51
    How do you know this will be soon? Some people say it will take maybe 15 years to stablize them as a country.... I didn't say it would be soon. I don't think 15 years is in any way realistic..perhaps one or two more perhaps less. The future is unpredictable. The Iraqi's still need us there until they have their own military and police uncorrupted and stabalized. Then they can take care of the problems themselves.
  44. neiljamesSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 14:38
    i am agaisnt every single foreign policy america has. the only war i will fight is the rest of the world v usa. Believe me u yanks and hillbillies are gonna get whats coming, and there aint no bunker in idaho thats gonna stop the yankee blood splilling. I dont suffer fools glady, and there is a fucking lot of em in ur country. Death to ingorance and greed/death to america. yeee haaaaa cowboy
  45. Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 17:19
    i am agaisnt every single foreign policy america has. the only war i will fight is the rest of the world v usa. Believe me u yanks and hillbillies are gonna get whats coming, and there aint no bunker in idaho thats gonna stop the yankee blood splilling. I dont suffer fools glady, and there is a fucking lot of em in ur country. Death to ingorance and greed/death to america. yeee haaaaa cowboy http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/o/pott2613/WTF/stfuyoumust.jpg Moron. :evil:
  46. OutlawIncarnateSalvaged from archive26 Jun 2006, 22:50
    I am against the war. Because I don't want my only brother to die. Its this kind of selfish thinking that has a lot of people against the war. Your brother joined the military knowing there are risks involved. Even if he doesn't support the war itself and isn't willing to die for the cause it is a risk that he took when he joined. Because of this risk he will get money, free education, free health and dental, benefits when he retires, etc. My point is if he was just joining the military for all the benefits he should have thought about it a little more. That is assuming he is against the war, but if he is for it and is willing to give his life for this country than you should respect that and support a cause that he believes in so much that he is willing to give his life. I'm officially part of the Air Force as of today and I will do whatever I can to serve this world (not really even this country because its so much broader, seeing how we saved thousands of Iraqi's from dying for reasons unknown to them by taking out Sadam). War on Terrorism, Hell Yes. It is also unfair to claim the deaths of a bunch of civilians a reason why we should stop this war. This is war, people die, thats just how it is. Would it be nice if they lived, sure of course. Our intelligence guys make sure that they check and recheck every bit of information they get before they make their move. If we were just going to war for oil would we have put our Marines and other troops on the line? No, if we were against the country and not the terrorist we would have just blitzkrieg'd the shit out of Iraq instead of having soldiers there right away.
  47. That DudeSalvaged from archive27 Jun 2006, 01:00
    Only after war can both sides know peace, whether it's the peace from having your enemies dead or the peace of death itself.

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