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1. FileCabi.netSalvaged from archive22 May 2006, 00:00
   Video - Two Kids throw grenades at US troops in Iraq http://www.filecabi.net/video/2gtroops.html
2. gadzooka17Salvaged from archive22 May 2006, 00:00
   Damn, their ass is grass. But if some police state was in our country like that we would do the same. Im not trying to say what they did was right, but personaly, i would rather chuck a grenado at conelizza rice or dick chenney or donald rumsfield's limo.
3. Snuff.Salvaged from archive22 May 2006, 00:00
   Quote: Originally Posted by gadzooka17 Damn, their ass is grass. But if some police state was in our country like that we would do the same. Im not trying to say what they did was right, but personaly, i would rather chuck a grenado at conelizza rice or dick chenney or donald rumsfield's limo. amen to that.
4. Uh ohSalvaged from archive22 May 2006, 00:00
   Quote: Originally Posted by gadzooka17 Damn, their ass is grass. But if some police state was in our country like that we would do the same. Im not trying to say what they did was right, but personaly, i would rather chuck a grenado at conelizza rice or dick chenney or donald rumsfield's limo. ah you have a point, if someone invaded your country you'd feel the desire to chuck something at them.
5. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 May 2006, 00:00
   If children are going to be allowed to throw grenades, fire missile launchers and shoot small arms like adults. Then they should expect to die like adults. I do not condone the killing of old men, women or children, BUT if they want to pick up arms and play in the game....then don't complain if they become a statistic of the game. I do not blame them for fighting back against the invaders, I would do the same thing. But I would also know that there would be a good chance of being killed or injured as well as others who assisted me or my cause. That is what war is, it does not discriminate based on age, sex or social status.
6. __BLAK__Salvaged from archive22 May 2006, 00:00
   yeah i would throw a grenade at tony blair if rolled threw :roll:
7. s56kSalvaged from archive22 May 2006, 00:00
   watch video carefully and dont be fooled..... two guys throw granades and then one run to the right, one stay to see results and then run toward the camera. kid just run away from explosion....
8. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive23 May 2006, 00:00
   Quote: Originally Posted by ace1875 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/arm… I bring your attention to ROE card Sec 3 a)"....Do not use deadly force to protect yourself from the threat of mere harassment. such as someone throwing rocks at you,...." Personally, I find it difficult to discern the difference between a Rock and a Hand Grenade when they are coming through the air in your direction. The ROE look good in print, but ask anyone who has experienced being under fire, the rules change when in the zone! Sometimes mistakes happen, innocents get killed. They have for thousands of years or as long as mankind has waged warfare. The only difference now is that since the Vietnam conflict, there are so many reporters in the middle of the action that a lot of the "innocent casualties" have been broad-casted to the public domain where people use it as anti-war fodder! "Carpet Bombing" was a common practice up until the Iraq war 10 years ago. How many innocent people died in the allied bombing of Germany and areas controlled by Germany or the Axis nations. How many "innocent" people died when the Atomic Bomb was dropped? How many died during the Blitzkrieg on London? If in a war zone or a conflict area, the only thing that should be thrown at the enemy by non-combatants are names and taunts. Anything else should be considered an aggressive act and should be dealt with accordingly.
9. s56kSalvaged from archive23 May 2006, 00:00
   in most cases when US bombing target in iraq/alfganistan that result in cca 30 killed civilians and NONE soldiers.... thats US problem, is become too easy to order bombing in civilian area... someone think, hey maybe there is super ultra secret training camp and five minutes later BUM..... then u say, we are sorry for colateral damage.....and that solve everything? u all have blood on your hands, live with that every time you go to gas station to tank your car...
10. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive23 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by s56k in most cases when US bombing target in iraq/alfganistan that result in cca 30 killed civilians and NONE soldiers.... thats US problem, is become too easy to order bombing in civilian area... someone think, hey maybe there is super ultra secret training camp and five minutes later BUM..... then u say, we are sorry for colateral damage.....and that solve everything? u all have blood on your hands, live with that every time you go to gas station to tank your car... I have No Blood on My Hands, my Friend! Neither do I make excuses for the mistakes or "collateral" damage or deaths that do occur in an area where war is fought. War sucks, but it is a part of the species humanoid. It has been with us for a millenia and will stay with us for thousands of years in the future. Man does not possess the intellectual reasoning not to be involved in warfare. so, as long as there is a difference of opinion, religion, race, language or possessions, there will be conflicts. Where do you post from, s56k? From what you have written, I detect some anger towards the United States for her involvement in the middle east and Afghanistan. The United States has put every effort into making our weapons of the "smart" type. Meaning, they are guided to a specific point the size of one meter square, thus limiting collateral damage. But things do go wrong. Electronic or mechanical failures or human error all take their toll in the casualty list. But at least we try. Surely it is a lot better than deliberately flying planes full of innocent civilians into buildings to make a point. or Finding explosive devises and improvising them to blow up indiscriminately and injure, maim or kill innocent bystanders as they pass. And let us not forget these "walking bomb" assholes that think Allah will embrace them in Heaven because they blow themselves up and take as many people (women and children included) with them as possible. So if anyone has blood on their hands it is the people or Governments that support terrorism and the unstable governments that want to play in the nuclear game. Allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons is like playing hot potato with a live hand grenade. It is just a matter of time before some idiot in power decides to detonate one. What would have happened if the Ayatollah had a nuke back in the '70's KABOOM! That's what! The blood is on the hands of those who hide and support the likes of Osama Bin Laden and members of Saddam's support group. It is the rebel factions the keep the fighting and death toll rising in Iraq, not the United States. Once the new Iraq government is in place and things are running smoothly, we are out of that arm pit of the world.....and it can't happen soon enough for me!
11. algenzSalvaged from archive23 May 2006, 00:00
    Srew that....frag them all....you bunch of bleeding heart "oh, yea, I can see how they feel" mother fuckers
12. __BLAK__Salvaged from archive23 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by algenz Srew that....frag them all....you bunch of bleeding heart "oh, yea, I can see how they feel" mother fuckers GO DIE!!!!
13. DAMm3Salvaged from archive23 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by Big Ozzie If children are going to be allowed to throw grenades, fire missile launchers and shoot small arms like adults. Then they should expect to die like adults. I do not condone the killing of old men, women or children, BUT if they want to pick up arms and play in the game....then don't complain if they become a statistic of the game. I do not blame them for fighting back against the invaders, I would do the same thing. But I would also know that there would be a good chance of being killed or injured as well as others who assisted me or my cause. That is what war is, it does not discriminate based on age, sex or social status. reminds me of when i was a kid and the faggy kids wanted to play dodgball with me but i couldnt throw hard at them cus theyd cry but theyd whip it at me. Pisst me off.
14. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive24 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by ace1875 Quote: Originally Posted by Big Ozzie The ROE look good in print, but ask anyone who has experienced being under fire, the rules change when in the zone! Sometimes mistakes happen, innocents get killed. This is sooo true. The reason i posted these, was cause now nobody follows these rules. Personally if you tried to kill me i shoot back. Big Ozzie did you know the "New" army now has timeout cards for the your drill sergeants?! WTF! Do you mean that little fat fucker, PIG faced Drill Sergeant Fanto that used to squeeze my nuts so bad actually would have to take a Time Out now???? Damn, don't know about all that now. Thinking back on all that shit I went through at boot during the Nam, I guess it did save some lives. Still, I would have loved to have taken my boot to that Bastard! I heard a while ago that the DI's can't scream at you or curse or call you derogatory names because some Pussy cried and wrote his Congressman or something. Is that all true? I even heard that Push Ups are out for punishment....Damn! I remember pushing Ft. Dix right up China's ASS! Holy Crap! What do these kids think they are enlisting for, SUMMER CAMP? They are supposed to be learning how to kill and be killed and That is The Bottom Line!
15. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive24 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by ace1875 lol yup its like a boot camp now. They now have to go through a 100 page (approx) psych evaluation after every kill!!!! I remember, i had one doctor after 3 months, he came in the room, 10 minutes tops, asked me, if i was suicidal, felt angry...etc. then we were done! back in circulation buddy. What a stupid system. That just keeps you from increasing your notches and CK's. I guess it is to stop Post Traumatic Stress, but don't they know by now that it will not show until you are back in civilian life? The only time I knew of anyone getting fucked up over a kill was when it was close quarter and you used your bayonet or hands. Tunnel rats had a lot of problems. crawling through the ground with nothing but a flashlight and a .45. Same with Snipers, they got to look through a glass and see the man as they killed them. Shooting over open sights or on rock-n-roll is more like shooting the silhouettes downrange...rather impersonal. Looking a man in the eyes while he is dieing is what hangs on to you, even if they are the enemy.
16. DeadPlasmaCellSalvaged from archive24 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by s56k watch video carefully and dont be fooled..... two guys throw granades and then one run to the right, one stay to see results and then run toward the camera. kid just run away from explosion.... Yea, I thought it was the kids at first, but after watching it again, the kids running away aren't the same as the people who actually threw the stuff.
17. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive24 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by DeadPlasmaCell Quote: Originally Posted by s56k watch video carefully and dont be fooled..... two guys throw granades and then one run to the right, one stay to see results and then run toward the camera. kid just run away from explosion.... Yea, I thought it was the kids at first, but after watching it again, the kids running away aren't the same as the people who actually threw the stuff. After reading the above post and response, I went back and viewed the video several more times as slowly as possible and frame by frame. There appears to be 5 individuals on the sidewalk on the right side by the wall. I feel we can safely eliminate the one walking towards the camera as an innocent pedestrian. There are two standing near the curb and two a bit past them by the wall. The ones that are closer to the wall are the throwers. At no point can I discern whether they are adults or children, male or female (except that they are in male dress). They all appear to be about the same size, either adult or teenagers. If I were there, and the grenades were thrown in my direction, I would have opened up on all 4 of them and try not to hit the man walking in the background. After looking at the video, I feel that the two at the wall were the throwers and the ones by the street were the observers or watchers. The one closest to the camera (with his back to it) appears to have a bag in his right hand. He appears to step up as if getting ready to throw something as the other two move away from the wall. At the last second, he lowers his right arm, turns and starts moving away. Then you have the person(s) taping the whole operation......all are just as guilty as the other as if each one had thrown a grenade. If I am responsible for killing an innocent during warfare, in the end I will face my judgement by my God, not by man.
18. kratosSalvaged from archive26 May 2006, 00:00
    I dare to dispute that and say that god does not exist. (sorry just had to say that xD)
19. ChebSalvaged from archive27 May 2006, 00:00
    Do you see the irony in your comment? I really doubt it.
20. Red/YellowSalvaged from archive27 May 2006, 00:00
    That is interesting, that roe does not cover insurgents firing on civilians; so as long as some one fires at civilians and doesn't fire at them it is fine?
21. Big OzzieSalvaged from archive27 May 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by mr_funk05 if they'd just held the granades for 2 seconds longer we'd now be minus 2 more Iraqi bastards and the world would be a much cleaner place. :?: :?: If it made it a cleaner place, than what about all the GORE from the kids getting blown up :!: :!: .......blood and guts and body parts all over the place. YUCK! :x Who's gonna clean up da mess?.....
22. KrGsMrN_Kusinagi0Salvaged from archive1 Sept 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by snufftelect Quote: Originally Posted by gadzooka17 Damn, their ass is grass. But if some police state was in our country like that we would do the same. Im not trying to say what they did was right, but personaly, i would rather chuck a grenado at conelizza rice or dick chenney or donald rumsfield's limo. amen to that. HAHAHAH those are not even KIDS and you talk about PROPAGANDA... Check the vid watch it over and over those are NOT KIDS and even if they were so what... Do you tell your kid to mow the yard and do the dishes does he do it.. America a police state WTF world do you live in. IRAQ WAS A POLICE STATE... BAATHISM was formed out of PAN ARAB SOCIALISM formed after NAZISM [mod note: edited out flames --snufftelect]
23. That DudeSalvaged from archive1 Sept 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by KrGsMrN_Kusinagi0 Quote: Originally Posted by snufftelect Quote: Originally Posted by gadzooka17 Damn, their ass is grass. But if some police state was in our country like that we would do the same. Im not trying to say what they did was right, but personaly, i would rather chuck a grenado at conelizza rice or dick chenney or donald rumsfield's limo. amen to that. HAHAHAH those are not even KIDS and you talk about PROPAGANDA... Check the vid watch it over and over those are NOT KIDS and even if they were so what... Do you tell your kid to mow the yard and do the dishes does he do it.. America a police state WTF world do you live in. IRAQ WAS A POLICE STATE... BAATHISM was formed out of PAN ARAB SOCIALISM formed after NAZISM [mod note: edited out flames --snufftelect] This is not the fight room.
24. Snuff.Salvaged from archive1 Sept 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by KrGsMrN_Kusinagi0 Quote: Originally Posted by snufftelect Quote: Originally Posted by gadzooka17 Damn, their ass is grass. But if some police state was in our country like that we would do the same. Im not trying to say what they did was right, but personaly, i would rather chuck a grenado at conelizza rice or dick chenney or donald rumsfield's limo. amen to that. HAHAHAH those are not even KIDS and you talk about PROPAGANDA... Check the vid watch it over and over those are NOT KIDS and even if they were so what... Do you tell your kid to mow the yard and do the dishes does he do it.. America a police state WTF world do you live in. IRAQ WAS A POLICE STATE... BAATHISM was formed out of PAN ARAB SOCIALISM formed after NAZISM [mod note: edited out flames --snufftelect] At least Saddam kept marginal control over the sectarian militias during his reign. We've practically given them "license to kill" and kushy government positions. Please refrain from personal attacks outside of the Fight Room, you are however welcome to bring your grievances there.
25. KrGsMrN_Kusinagi0Salvaged from archive1 Sept 2006, 00:00
    Quote: Originally Posted by snufftelect Quote: Originally Posted by KrGsMrN_Kusinagi0 Quote: Originally Posted by snufftelect Quote: Originally Posted by gadzooka17 Damn, their ass is grass. But if some police state was in our country like that we would do the same. Im not trying to say what they did was right, but personaly, i would rather chuck a grenado at conelizza rice or dick chenney or donald rumsfield's limo. amen to that. HAHAHAH those are not even KIDS and you talk about PROPAGANDA... Check the vid watch it over and over those are NOT KIDS and even if they were so what... Do you tell your kid to mow the yard and do the dishes does he do it.. America a police state WTF world do you live in. IRAQ WAS A POLICE STATE... BAATHISM was formed out of PAN ARAB SOCIALISM formed after NAZISM [mod note: edited out flames --snufftelect] At least Saddam kept marginal control over the sectarian militias during his reign. We've practically given them "license to kill" and kushy government positions. Please refrain from personal attacks outside of the Fight Room, you are however welcome to bring your grievances there. You mean saddam kept the peace at the expense of what 100,000-150,000 DEAD SHIA after the first gulf war. 100-200 thousand dead KURDS in the late 80s.. Yea if america WENT INTO nazi MODE iraq could be under control in a month DROP IN 3 million troops and post them at every block... What your seeing in iraq today is retribution killins for those STUPID IEDS and car bombs.. IEDS have gone down instensely As well as American soldier deaths.. WHY because they see the problem is each other not the americans. How long did it take america to even get its ACT TOGETHER how many years 1776 all the way past the CIVIL WAR we were still frakking things up in our own country
26. CennonSalvaged from archive22 Nov 2006, 00:00
    We liberated these assholes so their kids can throw grenades at us?
27. snaf1010Salvaged from archive5 Dec 2006, 00:00
    awwww they're just playing "catch", go on, throw some bullets back at them, first soldier to get a headshot wins 100 points!
28. jamesK1Salvaged from archive
    Quote: Originally Posted by FileCabi.net View Post Video - Two Kids throw grenades at US troops in Iraq http://www.filecabi.net/video/2gtroops.html profound or simple.. like lots of stuff.

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