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verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 00:09
I think I would be failing myself and my child as a parent (if I had any) if I didn't physical punish them for wrong doing? what do you think?
Clouds in the SkySalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 00:21
I personally believe that there is a way around that...If you possess the psychological capabilities required to upbring your child you will not be obliged to impose physical ABUSE on him/her.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 00:21
I think I would be failing myself and my child as a parent (if I had any) if I didn't physical punish them for wrong doing? what do you think? I think your right. :)
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 02:05
I personally believe that there is a way around that...If you possess the psychological capabilities required to upbring your child you will not be obliged to impose physical ABUSE on him/her. I respect anyone's personal beliefs, but I believe them to be skewed and wrong in this case for you. Go stand in a corner, your grounded, ..etc are not as effective disciplinary measure as a good old fashioned spanking in some cases. A mix of both types of discipline is best. I really don't like you calling a spanking or swat on the behind physical abuse either, because it's not. Children have been raised this way for thousands of years. It is a simple fact of life. You punish your child because you love them and want them to grow up to be productive and respectfull. If you spare the rod too much you definitely spoil the child I don't care how high you think your "psychological capabilities" are. :wink:
QuackersSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 02:09
I agree with smacking children. I know that I got smacked for misbehaving and I know its never given me lasting damage.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 02:16
I agree with smacking children. I know that I got smacked for misbehaving and I know its never given me lasting damage. I got a slap or two but never full on hard as possible of course. I got a belt strap on occasions or was made to cut a switch for myself as well. I am thankfull for my parent's discipline and have no pyschological trauma. I was raised this way they were raised this way..as their parents before them and so forth. There is nothing wrong with spanking your child for discipline.
babygirl1Salvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 03:18
Spare the rod and spoil the child,Beat them for they shall not die. These are verses from the bible. You are obligated as a parent to give your kids whooping when they are called for. If more parents did punish thwir kids with the belt you would not see so many kids out of control. i got pinished when I was a child for the things I did wrong and they made the law abiding citzen I am today. IF YOU DONT WHOOP YOUR KIDS SOMEONE WILL. Stop letting people tell you that is abuse, its not to beat your kids for no reason is abuse, to whoop them when they do wrong is parenting.
Clouds in the SkySalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 03:38
Oh my fuck lol! Seriously, neither my sister or me have never been physically abused. 1. We do not possess any criminal records nor have we done anything to deserve one mind you. 2. We don't consume drugs 3. We're respectful towards our peers 4. We do not indulge in promiscuous sex Wake up and consider the different possibilities out there. Oh, and by the way, religious or not... If it would be written in the Bible to go throw yourself off a bridge; I suppose you would do it? lol! If ever I have children, (which I seriously doubt will happen considering the world we live in, I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than to expose my child to feeble minds and a corrupted all around system.) and catch my husband/partner lay a hand on him/her, that will be the end of it.
Evil ConservativeSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 04:16
Oh my fuck lol! Seriously, neither my sister or me have never been physically abused. 1. We do not possess any criminal records nor have we done anything to deserve one mind you. 2. We don't consume drugs 3. We're respectful towards our peers 4. We do not indulge in promiscuous sex Wake up and consider the different possibilities out there. Oh, and by the way, religious or not... If it would be written in the Bible to go throw yourself off a bridge; I suppose you would do it? lol! If ever I have children, (which I seriously doubt will happen considering the world we live in, I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than to expose my child to feeble minds and a corrupted all around system.) and catch my husband/partner lay a hand on him/her, that will be the end of it. Glad it worked for you and your family if it's really as perfect as you picture it. That doesn't mean it is The Way for everyone to raise their children however. Your way would be terrible for some if not most families. It is one reason I believe society is on a decline of morals. This website is a testament to that. You keep calling it abuse....there is a HUGE difference between child abuse and disciplining your child. If you call everyone that punishes their child a child abuser you'll have to arrest almost the entire world. You don't beat your children black and blue. You correct them with a spanking if it's something really bad not hard enough to harm them physically but hard enough for a little pain. Life is not painless. There are consequences for every action and one must accept/learn responsibility for their actions. What's the corrupt all around system your talking about by the way? :) Schools? Families :?: :!: I wasn't even thinking about the bible when I said spare the rod spoil the child. That saying is just truth.
QuackersSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 04:46
Seriously, neither my sister or me have never been physically abused. Theres quite a difference between a little smack and abuse. 1. We do not possess any criminal records nor have we done anything to deserve one mind you. 2. We don't consume drugs 3. We're respectful towards our peers 4. We do not indulge in promiscuous sex So everyone who was smacked as a child is a violent kleptomanic who sleeps around and shoots up now and again?
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 09:21
I believe that both sides of the issue have valid points. As a child, neither of my parents "spared the rod" on either my siblings or me. Fact is, by today's standards they probably would have been locked up for child abuse. My youngest is now 26 years old, working on his masters at Cal State and this past semester took 22 credits and maintained a 4.0 Average! (and yes, I am VERY fuckin' Proud of him! Takes after the ol' man he does!) Anyway, I only ever used "corporal punishment" on him ONCE! That was when he was about 4 years old and took a large female Shepherd out of the yard for a walk, on a leash, down a busy (55 mph) highway. When I caught up to him, I pulled his pants down right along side of the road and spanked his bare bottom red! Not because what he did was so bad (thank God he didn't get hurt or the dog didn't bolt out into traffic dragging him with her!) but because it Scared the Crap out of me! It was the one and only time I ever smacked my son. When he got older (about 16-17), and was testing me, society, rules etc, I did have to jack him up against the wall by the throat to prove a point that I was not to be trifled with. We reached an immediate understanding on that point. I do believe that children can be disciplined with love, explanations, psychology, times outs, restrictions and removal of privileges (in about that order)...the same as pets can be "trained". PLEASE do not think that I am inferring that children are pets! They just get "trained" much the same way while they are growing, rewards and punishment. Both puppies and children have enough common sense to know which is nicer to receive. But as children get older, they need to know the feel of "physical or corporal" punishment. Not as an on going thing, but just a taste...that way they will surely know what they do not want, and will make the right decisions in life. Because some times, a child is a slow learner...and needs a firm hand to guide the way. Lord knows there are enough mothers out there that have buried their child and wish they had raised him/her with a little more discipline. Because death is the final punishment!
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 10:30
Oh my fuck lol! Seriously, neither my sister or me have never been physically abused. 1. We do not possess any criminal records nor have we done anything to deserve one mind you. 2. We don't consume drugs 3. We're respectful towards our peers 4. We do not indulge in promiscuous sex Wake up and consider the different possibilities out there. Oh, and by the way, religious or not... If it would be written in the Bible to go throw yourself off a bridge; I suppose you would do it? lol! If ever I have children, (which I seriously doubt will happen considering the world we live in, I'd rather shoot myself in the foot than to expose my child to feeble minds and a corrupted all around system.) and catch my husband/partner lay a hand on him/her, that will be the end of it. You can't be serious. First off I got the strap on occassion, and deserved it more times than I got, but I've never been abused. I'm happy that you and your family were the 1 out of 10,000 that ended up ok-ish but it's not exactly proof that not spanking works. I say ok-ish cause if you or your siblings have kids they may not end up the 1 out of 10,000. I worked at a grocery store in a posh area and let me tell you, those kids were so bad I wanted to take off my belt and get them myselves. All those parents are doing is setting their kids up for failure. Without spankings a kid knows nothing is going to happen. I can do what I want and all I have to do is stare at a wall for a few minutes, or spend some time in my room, playing video games or watching tv. I never had time out, whats the point. I'd prefer the spanking anyway. The point is people don't spank their kids for fun, they spank them because they love them. They spank them so they don't end up naked or doing something stupid on filecabinet. And who said that spankers aren't open to other possibilities? I'm not going tp 'wake up' as if your way is the right way and i'm just not seeing it. I was spanked and I dont: 1. possess any criminal records nor have we done anything to deserve one mind you. 2. consume drugs 3. am respectful towards our peers 4. indulge in promiscuous sex Most people who got spankings don't. If the Bible did invite us to throw ourselves off of bridges there would be no one to read it, thus there would be no point. And if it did it wouldnt have any merit, but it doesn't say that does it? So people follow it because if you're the religious person you claim to be thats what you do. I will beat my kids on the bum when they deserve it and none of your hippy garbage is going to change that. Sorry, I guess i'll never wake up.
AvalonerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 11:31
I think, like some others, that there must be some kind of balance of a good old spank and the nonaggresion way. I already saw many brats, that would indeed need a spank, when I hear that a ten year old kid beats up his teacher i just get a stomachache, I mena ok teacher can be nasty, but afterall I would never punch or kick a woman, and in such cases I always think that the parents did a bad job, if they did nothing or didn't grow enough respect for autorithies. Well I also was spanked in my youth, in my case it rather build up my anger, thus I nearly always jump on any argument I can, jsut to proof that older ones aren't always right, but thats just a bit off topic. To summarize it: kids need to see borders, when they cross them you can talk long and with many arguments and maybe your child will never do it again, spank them and they won't do it for sure, I know this out of my own experience, my mother gave me such spanking i couldn't barely sit for three days, but it worked, abusing is something complettly different, abusing a child is just hit them without any course and anyone who abuses children should be locked in the worst prison on world, main inhabitans there should be 2 meter childabuserbuttfucker :P. The bible is simply wrong, don't believe the shit.
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 18:40
I think physical abuse should be the last form of punishment a parent should turn to. If the kid makes a mess in his room and when you ask to clean it up and he doesn't. No dessert. If the kid yells kicks screams and says he hates you ect give him a spank or whatever. Not too hard just enough so he'll be better when coming to pick up his things. Don't beat him balck and blue and throw him on his bed and slam the door. I think that could be child abuse. I hate belting. One miss-aimed hit and you could hit the child in the kidneys or the spine... It's just not right to me just use the hand. I was only spanked once and a while my parents are good people. My mom lets me get away with more stuff because I'm older and she knows I love her.
VanguardSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 19:16
Yeah, beat your kids, that 'll fix em good. :? Seriously, just to jump up on the stand. I've been spanked, thou that didn't occur past 6 years old. Anything worse then that, then yeah, that child abuse. Slap across the face? Good ol' belt? Then its your ass on the line. Does it work? The spanking? I probably would've ended up the same way either way.
andrexoteSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 19:40
i wont ever "spank" my children if i ever had one. every children takes the way u punish him different it's a shame you guys think its ok to punish someone who "loves you" its more than prove that if you "spank" your children...there is allways a chance he will feel less than others at their ages. its something that children never forget inside, for more they said they get over it, they never forget that my dad is a doctor n god bless him to know this things before it happens, i saw my brothers getting pawned many times and i know now they would never forget that even when they love my parents so much as i do i though i was on the only one who lives in a third world country here....
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 21:19
i wont ever "spank" my children if i ever had one. every children takes the way u punish him different it's a shame you guys think its ok to punish someone who "loves you" its more than prove that if you "spank" your children...there is allways a chance he will feel less than others at their ages. its something that children never forget inside, for more they said they get over it, they never forget that my dad is a doctor n god bless him to know this things before it happens, i saw my brothers getting pawned many times and i know now they would never forget that even when they love my parents so much as i do i though i was on the only one who lives in a third world country here.... If he feels less than other kids, spank that shame right out of him. That'll fix his wagon.
That DudeSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 22:01
If you don't show enough interest in his personal development to punish him when he does wrong, to save him the trouble that stupid behaviour will get him into later in life, then you don't love your child at all. I, personally, have had corporal punishment, and when I deem it necessary should I ever have children, I will use it as well to enforce what is decent, respectable behaviour. In the case of a swat on the pants against juvie hall or prison, I (and my children) will take the spanking.
andrexoteSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 23:04
"spank" works as the last thing u can think to use, it isnt new...indeed is how we made childrens who do things with no reason, because for some reason tu "spank" him instead of talk n punish him without touch the boy. i have had corporal punishment, and yeah it affected me, thats why i wont ever touch my boys, my brother had childs, and i must say there are not childrens as the, fuckin critters....he never had touch them i im pretty sure of that, everytime they cry for some stupid reason he just let them on their room til they calm down, there is no reason for spank a kid, u cant give me a good point of why i should spank my boi, its just anger who unleash us to do something we cant do with words or childmetods like i already said though i was on the only one who lives in a third world country here....
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 23:12
"spank" works as the last thing u can think to use, it isnt new...indeed is how we made childrens who do things with no reason, because for some reason tu "spank" him instead of talk n punish him without touch the boy. i have had corporal punishment, and yeah it affected me, thats why i wont ever touch my boys, my brother had childs, and i must say there are not childrens as the, fuckin critters....he never had touch them i im pretty sure of that, everytime they cry for some stupid reason he just let them on their room til they calm down, there is no reason for spank a kid, u cant give me a good point of why i should spank my boi, its just anger who unleash us to do something we cant do with words or childmetods like i already said though i was on the only one who lives in a third world country here.... Perhaps thats why I have no earthly idea what in the hell you just said? Well a little bit i did, and corporal punishment is not the last thing i can think of, theres plenty of things worse than a beating. There are plenty of reasonds to spank kids, i can think of billions of reasons.
andrexoteSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 23:17
im sorry my english it isnt gd enough, but there is NO FUCKIN REASON to harm verbally or fisically any child. thats why we have shy kids cause they feel and they think as their parents told them screamin at them when she/he broke a jar, crash a window, lost something.....there is no reason and no right to destroy someone's future
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive13 Jun 2006, 23:44
im sorry my english it isnt gd enough, but there is NO FUCKIN REASON to harm verbally or fisically any child. thats why we have shy kids cause they feel and they think as their parents told them screamin at them when she/he broke a jar, crash a window, lost something.....there is no reason and no right to destroy someone's future Im sorry if I offended you on the whole English thing, it was more of a joke rather than an insult. Anywho, spanking doesn't destroy lives, you're going too deep with the results of spanking. Again, a difference between spanking and abuse.
DrazSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 00:20
if i had a child and he got outta pocket i would whoop his ass with a cord
AvalonerSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 03:14
Andrax I'm just thinking like vertical, a little spank isn't what makes people shy or something, you don't change your whole personality, you just remember "doing this shit makes my parents mad and I don't wanna get them madn, so I wont brake this window this time", thats all its not like you get beating every day with no reason at all and there are enough kids that won't listen to you when you want to discuss with them, simply as it is, kids tend to ignore you, because their view of the life is just fixed on themself, they don't care much about anyone just them and then their are kids that can be teached with words, but now after I'm old I know that words wouldn't work by myself, so I think the spanks I got were right. After all I think all the "no tocuh your kids" fraktion thinks a spank would be something that breaks any bones or something god damm its just something on the kids bum and not really hurting that much, or atleast the first time it wouldn't hurt, when you keep on doing this stuff then you need two spanks thats it, somedays the kid will finally know what he/she should not do.
longbobSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 07:22
I agree with the majority of post in that a good amount of dicipline (including physical)is sometimes needed. I think that Evil C's posts are absolutely spot on. I slapped hands on occasion when my kids were younger and these days find a raised voice or 'the look' works fine and me and my kids have a fantastic relationship. Longbob.
andrexoteSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 21:46
well im not agree with you guys, when a child ignore everything u said to him/her, i lock his/her rooom with the kid inside, til he/she stop crying i wont open the door thats it. other options are martial arts, where teacher know special treatments to deal with kids, i got a lot of friends who were "imperactives" n someway that helped with them to understand what their parents told them. i remember one day when mi brother with 12year old told to my dad when he slaped my brother on his face. he looked at my dad n told him "you dont have the right to touch me'', my dad freezed i got all white. i read all your posts n i only hear "i lit slaps wont do anithing bad'' , not my position...if you do it once u'll do again n harder, maybe a friendly slap to a son but thats all.... aniways i wont post something else on this forum, im getting tired to say why i wont ever "spank" a children.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive14 Jun 2006, 22:08
"...other options are martial arts, where teacher know special treatments to deal with kids, i got a lot of friends who were "imperactives" n someway that helped with them to understand what their parents told them." ALL RIGHTY NOW! Martial Arts eh? Chop! Chop! So now Daniel Son, wax on, wax off...not do right! ChopChop! Paint de fence, or me give round house kick eeeeeeYAAAAH! hmmmmmm..has possibilities, I'm headed to the local chop shop to sign up for lessons. First must find funny pajamas..
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive15 Jun 2006, 00:18
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me.
longbobSalvaged from archive15 Jun 2006, 01:06
i remember one day when mi brother with 12year old told to my dad when he slaped my brother on his face. he looked at my dad n told him "you dont have the right to touch me'', my dad freezed i got all white. Andrexote, That my friend is one of the contributing factors towards the problems with the attitudes of todays youth and the ensuing effect on society. Such a classic statement you made there about rights. Another favourite is along the lines of "if you touch me I'll sue". The fact is that while todays kids are taught, understand and are well aware of their rights, unfortunately they aren't taught, aware or understanding of their responsibilities! Longbob.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive15 Jun 2006, 09:05
well im not agree with you guys, when a child ignore everything u said to him/her, i lock his/her rooom with the kid inside, til he/she stop crying i wont open the door thats it. other options are martial arts, where teacher know special treatments to deal with kids, i got a lot of friends who were "imperactives" n someway that helped with them to understand what their parents told them. i remember one day when mi brother with 12year old told to my dad when he slaped my brother on his face. he looked at my dad n told him "you dont have the right to touch me'', my dad freezed i got all white. i read all your posts n i only hear "i lit slaps wont do anithing bad'' , not my position...if you do it once u'll do again n harder, maybe a friendly slap to a son but thats all.... aniways i wont post something else on this forum, im getting tired to say why i wont ever "spank" a children. Oh my God if I ever told my parents 'you dont have the right to hit me' I swear my mom would have beat my ass , and i would have deserved it. I don't agree with slapping on the face, its degrading besides a good old fashion switch is worse. I knew my parents spanked me cause they loved me and what on earth would I do if I complained about it? Get put in some terrible foster home or something? Fuck that, i'd rather stay at home and get disciplined like normal children should.
QuackersSalvaged from archive15 Jun 2006, 09:36
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive15 Jun 2006, 13:47
beat them mother fucking kids, that way when they gonna fuck up again, they look at their old bruises and go OH YEA! *slaps forehead*
cheese muffinSalvaged from archive15 Jun 2006, 14:51
physical punishment doesnt always work. usually it just makes the kid afraid of you. and when he gets older, he can take the pain. instead, use psychological punishment. for instance, sleep on the floor, less to eat (occasionally), no candy. etc etc.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive19 Jun 2006, 16:46
physical punishment doesnt always work. usually it just makes the kid afraid of you. and when he gets older, he can take the pain. instead, use psychological punishment. for instance, sleep on the floor, less to eat (occasionally), no candy. etc etc. ALWAYS works!
Commando80Salvaged from archive23 Jun 2006, 00:32
scare em first.. if they dont get scared, then you smack em. if that doesnt work... take out the big guns.. and i mean the belt, or something even worse. you can shoot then in the ass with a paintball gun from 100 feet away :)
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive23 Jun 2006, 06:03
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it. In the fourth grade I was about 9 maybe 10.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive23 Jun 2006, 10:13
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it. In the fourth grade I was about 9 maybe 10. I was 9 and 10 in the 6th grade........
Uh ohSalvaged from archive17 Jul 2006, 23:55
people who are all "physical correction isn't right, alternatives! safer! wrong!" are usually the ones who haven't dealt with a child/children. people can't think like a child when they mature, but if a child does something wrong and receives discipline then they learn. however, depending on the severity of the action or refusal to listen to your commands, pain is the best of message senders. it sounds sick, but it's not in a good way. if a child starts parading around like they own the place it's because they know they won't get into any real trouble. if they say no when you tell them "don't do that" then why won't they say no when you tell them they can't watch tv anymore? what are you gonna do about it? give 'em a taste of the old motherly/fatherly love i say.
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive19 Jul 2006, 01:09
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it. In the fourth grade I was about 9 maybe 10. I was 9 and 10 in the 6th grade........ 9 or 10? No way it 11 or 12 in 6th grade in third grade I remember eing 10 and the kid was 9.
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive19 Jul 2006, 06:25
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it. In the fourth grade I was about 9 maybe 10. I was 9 and 10 in the 6th grade........ 9 or 10? No way it 11 or 12 in 6th grade in third grade I remember eing 10 and the kid was 9. No I remember quite fondly. I was 9 in the 6th grade. Just like I was 16 in the 12th. Hell that was only a couple years ago.
Clouds in the SkySalvaged from archive19 Jul 2006, 06:27
I miss school incredibly... I can't believe it's already been 5 years since I've graduated high school.
That DudeSalvaged from archive19 Jul 2006, 20:13
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it. In the fourth grade I was about 9 maybe 10. I was 9 and 10 in the 6th grade........ 9 or 10? No way it 11 or 12 in 6th grade in third grade I remember eing 10 and the kid was 9. No I remember quite fondly. I was 9 in the 6th grade. Just like I was 16 in the 12th. Hell that was only a couple years ago. In the U.S., 12th grade is usually finished about 2 years later, so the median ages are higher across the board.
QuackersSalvaged from archive20 Jul 2006, 01:29
All that 'grade' stuff is confusing. We just have year 1-6 at primary school, then year 7-11 at secondary school. Then if you go to college/6th form they are often called year 12-13. My last day of year 12 today.
AllisterFiendSalvaged from archive20 Jul 2006, 01:48
All that 'grade' stuff is confusing. We just have year 1-6 at primary school, then year 7-11 at secondary school. Then if you go to college/6th form they are often called year 12-13. My last day of year 12 today. Well... our's is; Kindergarten through 5th grade is Elementary, and 6th through 8th is Middle School... And then 9th through 12th is Highschool (9th-Freshmen, 10th-Sophmore, 11th-Juniors, 12th- Seniors)... :wink: :? :lol: Guess it might be a little confusing. And then 4 years of college...
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive22 Jul 2006, 01:36
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it. In the fourth grade I was about 9 maybe 10. I was 9 and 10 in the 6th grade........ 9 or 10? No way it 11 or 12 in 6th grade in third grade I remember eing 10 and the kid was 9. No I remember quite fondly. I was 9 in the 6th grade. Just like I was 16 in the 12th. Hell that was only a couple years ago. In the U.S., 12th grade is usually finished about 2 years later, so the median ages are higher across the board. I'm american dude. In 12th grade in the US I was 16 and turned 17. It was only two years ago.
KitRaeSalvaged from archive22 Jul 2006, 02:16
Ffs that grade system is fucked up! :shock: Here it's much easier to understand... First we get 8 years of basics. Then 4, 5 or 6 years (depends on what kind of school you choose) of advanced school. After that we get 4 or 5 years (again depending on what kind of school you choose) of school that is specifically meant for the job you wanna do. LOL wtf was I talking about, this is just as hard to understand :shock: :lol:
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Jul 2006, 10:32
I think that a parent(s) could use physical abuse as a sick way of getting out agression. This could possibly become a habit even to a good parent. If the kid wont shut the hell up? Just belt him. Hell he'll go cry himslef to sleep somwhere else. ;) (Yeah see? creepy) I had this friend Jeremy and he was always kind of small... in the fourth grade he had this massive bruise on his head and I asked him why he said: "My dad punched me as hard as he could... the first time, I ducked, the second time he got me then he pushed me down the stairs." He had come to school 2 hours late because he walked in the rain and he had to dry his hair with paper towels. It still breaks my heart. I'm pretty tough but remembering some things honestly break me. Thats sounds pretty nasty, how old are kids when in 4th grade? My dad has never hit me as a child, but my mum smacked me now and again when I misbehaved. When I was 16 me and my dad had a massive argument before school, he pushed me roughly and tried to pin me down on the sofa, I pushed him off me knocked him to the floor then I walked out and went to school. By the time id got home that evening it seemed forgotten and neither of us have ever mentioned it. In the fourth grade I was about 9 maybe 10. I was 9 and 10 in the 6th grade........ 9 or 10? No way it 11 or 12 in 6th grade in third grade I remember eing 10 and the kid was 9. No I remember quite fondly. I was 9 in the 6th grade. Just like I was 16 in the 12th. Hell that was only a couple years ago. In the U.S., 12th grade is usually finished about 2 years later, so the median ages are higher across the board. I'm american dude. In 12th grade in the US I was 16 and turned 17. It was only two years ago. WOW.....Look at the Friggin Pyramid that I created....COOL! BTW.........My birthday is November 12th, in the states, most kids that are born in the second half of the year (not sure when the cut off is) Graduate at age 17 as they turn 17 the fall before they graduate. When is your birthday, "verticalkiller"? If you are born in the spring or some time after January 1, you usually graduate after turning 18. This is all according to not being held back for whatever reason. I myself was placed in an accelerated program to get ready for college, but screwed off due to a dysfunctional home life and graduated at age 17 with the rest of my class. (and it was much longer than 2 years ago!)
verticalkillerSalvaged from archive22 Jul 2006, 11:11
December was the month I was born in. You're right, that is the reason. Accelerated classes are great. I took one on accident in college and got a higher grade than in my regular classes. They're more intimate, only like 20 people instead of 200 in the class room. Yeah, enjoyed that class very much.
Snuff.Salvaged from archive22 Jul 2006, 11:17
Ozzie: November 11th, for me. :wink: I fucking loved school: managed to get the nescessary grades for college with a 30% attendence rate. :P All I did was doss about and smoke dope, crammed in the odd bit of reading before sailing into the exams and writing some Agrade material. :D ...Come to think of it, little has changed except I don't get bitched at anymore. When I first started it was like "how are you expecting to succeed if you're only in half the time?" ...Two or three pieces of coursework later and they never said a word again. :D It can be done: The system is yours for the tweaking. 8)

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