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TheCanadianSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 12:40
I have met plenty of black people in my life that are nice, but some of them are just out of control... whenever i go "downtown" i see mindless gorillas with there pants below there knees, and crime (because the population of that area is mostly African American) I feel extremely unsafe, because while i was doing a school there, there was gunfire out in the distance. So I grudge going there, and I always bring my knife with me. Sometimes I HATE the way America is run... There is so much racism and stupid things in here... We NEED to stop all the illegal immigrants from coming over the border, because its just bringing more trouble into this country, with drugs, crime, and bad food (LOL). I think there should be NO guns at all in america! (unless they belong to the military or police). I am sick of all the crime that happens... okay, so those are my thoughts... what are yours? share them, tell us about them, it can be about anything! And don't be hatin' about the others thoughts!
QuackersSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 12:51
I think there should be NO guns at all in america! (unless they belong to the military or police). I am sick of all the crime that happens... Im not a yank, and if yanks want to carry weapons around on their own soil like primative apes, I spose its their business. But I think the idea of letting civilians buy weapons designed to end life is distgusting, and any government that condones it is seriously fucked up. I would never want to live in a place like that. Guns should be restricted to military, police ect, and for professions that need them, farming ect.
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 12:52
I think there should be NO guns at all in america! (unless they belong to the military or police). I am sick of all the crime that happens... Im not a yank, and if yanks want to carry weapons around on their own soil like primative apes, I spose its their business. But I think the idea of letting civilians buy weapons designed to end life is distgusting, and any government that condones it is seriously fucked up. I would never want to live in a place like that. Guns should be restricted to military, police ect, and for professions that need them, farming ect. Exactly!
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 13:26
You know, I don't usually post in the Fight Room, but this time I'll make an exception. T-Rex and Canadian.....you do not want to live somewhere that allows the general population possession of handguns, weapons etc? GOOD! Stay right the Fuck where you are! You people act like the United States is still the "Old West" with people walking down the streets, six shooter strapped to their leg, calling out others and having shoot-outs at High Noon! Sure, there are Gang Fights, Drive By shootings, Drug wars......same shit that goes on in your country and any other major city in the world! The thing is, you hear about it here!......WHY? Because the same Constitution that gives us the "Right to bear arms" gives us the "Right to Free Speech" and the "Freedom of the Press" to report things that happen. Many other Countries cover up problems like these so as to not scare away the tourist trade. Do your research on Jamaica, Thailand, Japan, Russia, Indonesia, Columbia, Argentina, Mexico, Greece, Italy and dozens of other countries who cover up news stories of murders, kids killing kids, gang wars etc, etc, etc. This includes England and Canada! The United States is not alone with the problem. Gun control is not the answer! If we were to make owning a hand gun, shotgun or rifle illegal...Do you really think that the criminals would turn theirs in? CANADIAN... I hope that your comments in the opening post were in Jest. Even if they were, they were in Bad Taste! Not even the Fight Room deserves something like that! And if they were your true feelings....you had better GROW THE FUCK UP FAST! You are what, 15, or about to turn 16? What do you know about city life or life "Downtown?" You just got off your mama's tit last week! HOW DARE you refer to a black person as a "Gorilla"? Or comment on their Clothing Fashions when you are a self proclaimed "Break-Dancer" you friggin moron! "African-American"? Why not "African-Canadian" or "African-English" What the Fuck do you know about Crime? Someone steal your milk money? And just what do you think you are going to do with a knife in school, Become a statistic? You are what.....140lbs.....maybe 5'5" 0r 5'6". SHIT BOY, go ahead pull that knife on me....I'll stick it so far up your ass then take your I-pod, lap top and your milk money, BIOTCH! Kid, I ain't getting on your shit (well maybe a little) but because I do like you, I think you had better wake up and smell the Root Beer! You are talking SHIT and it is not very becoming! I am Finished........go ahead, everyone tell me I'm an ASSHOLE! You can, its the Fight Room!
QuackersSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 15:04
Oz, there are over 5 times as many murders in the US as there are in the UK, taking population differences into account, and the press in the UK is rated as having a higher level of freedom of speach than in the US. So please don't say imply that crime levels in the UK and US are the same, and please dont imply that we have less freedom of speach in the UK, because both facts are false. We have had this firearms argument before, and if the US government banned all firearms tomorrow, criminals would still have their guns, but eventually the supply of guns would dry up, and only the upper tier of organised crime gangs ect would have guns. The average joe wouldnt be able to walk into a store get a gun and 6 months later rob a store. In my country very very few criminals have guns. Gun murders even manage to get onto the national news, because they are so rare and unexpected. You can bang on about some constitutions giving you the 'Right To Free Speech' and 'Right To Freedom Of The Press' as much as you want, but it means very little, at least to me. Wasn't it in the Constitution or whatever its called that everyone would be treated as equal? But how long did blacks have to struggle to get the same rights as whites? Same with this freedom of speach malarky, compared to places like Denmark ect the US's press is very restricted. To me this 'Constitution' bullshit seems the glossy paint to hide the corruption the US is. It may have started out with good intentions, but its incredibly flawed imo.
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 15:27
GOD DAMN! How many times do I have to say this? I'm NOT from Canada! And ozzie, Its not MY fucking fault they cause most of the crime here... they think they have more of a right then anyone else! so they walk all over everyone! Hell! they get paid for doing nothing because we slaved them! so they assume that they don't have to work, so that means they live shitty ass lives in shitty ass houses, acting like shitty ass people! Why do you think that a lot of black familys never have a father? Because they are not working! The father is sick of sitting around, doing nothing and getting paid 6 dollars an hour at a fast-food restraunt! so they move away thinking they will be able to support themselves better then they support there family! okay... I'm done with this for right now... I have a Soccer game I need to get to.
QuackersSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 15:29
Canadian, come back in 4 years mate. Your 13 arnt you?
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 15:31
Yes, I'm 13
AllisterFiendSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 15:50
I don't think we need to get rid of guns. I think we need to give EVERYONE a gun. Think about it. Everyone carrying around a gun.... Would you shoot someone if everyone around you has a gun as well? You shoot someone, you get shot back. :twisted:
QuackersSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 15:55
I don't think we need to get rid of guns. I think we need to give EVERYONE a gun. Think about it. Everyone carrying around a gun.... Would you shoot someone if everyone around you has a gun as well? You shoot someone, you get shot back. :twisted: Then it turns into survival of the fittest. And theres always someone out there bigger than you. It wouldn't stop robberies, it would just make the criminals more ruthless.
AllisterFiendSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 15:59
Size doesn't have anything to do with it. If EVERYONE around you had a gun, would you shoot someone?
QuackersSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 16:02
I wouldn't shoot anyone anyway, so its a pointless question. And theres always someone out there bigger than you is a figure of speech really... really I mean more skilled with a firearm, or even more lucky.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 16:11
motha fuck you asshole as a former immigrant i can say that me and my family is doing better than yiur punk white ass u ahte em cuz of food? fuck u grow some fucking ballz lil bitch BTW: First u say this shit i see mindless gorillas with there pants below there knees, and crime (because the population of that area is mostly African American) We NEED to stop all the illegal immigrants from coming over the border, because its just bringing more trouble into this country, with drugs, crime, and bad food (LOL). the u go and stick ur dick in ur white ass by saying this: There is so much racism and stupid things in here... im glad u think others cultures such as food is fun to ridicule, ya fat fuck, i wanan kick ur little ass so bad now
crazyjoeSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 17:29
I have met plenty of black people in my life that are nice, but some of them are just out of control... whenever i go "downtown" i see mindless gorillas with there pants below there knees, and crime (because the population of that area is mostly African American) I feel extremely unsafe, because while i was doing a school there, there was gunfire out in the distance. So I grudge going there, and I always bring my knife with me. Sometimes I HATE the way America is run... There is so much racism and stupid things in here... We NEED to stop all the illegal immigrants from coming over the border, because its just bringing more trouble into this country, with drugs, crime, and bad food (LOL). I think there should be NO guns at all in america! (unless they belong to the military or police). I am sick of all the crime that happens... okay, so those are my thoughts... what are yours? share them, tell us about them, it can be about anything! And don't be hatin' about the others thoughts! I disagree with everything you have said, but tighter border security. It's unfair for illegal immigrants to come to this country and get a job and have rights that a legal immigrant spent many years to obtain. Race has little to do with someones behavior. The way they are brought up does. IMO Any ammendment from the bill of rights that gets removed will cause others to be removed/changed/etc. We have this right because our fonding fathers basically wanted to keep an armed population incase our government got out of control and we could recapture it. Guns or not crimes will happen. Illegal weapons and drugs still get to our country regardless of the laws. Also not all crimes are comitted by those who legally own weapons. It's rather hypocritical that you say you are tired of racism and then make a point of saying that any black person in a downtown area with baggy clothes is a criminal. BTW Mexican food is tied with Italien food for my favorite type of food. I don't think we need to get rid of guns. I think we need to give EVERYONE a gun. Think about it. Everyone carrying around a gun.... Would you shoot someone if everyone around you has a gun as well? You shoot someone, you get shot back. :twisted: Then it turns into survival of the fittest. And theres always someone out there bigger than you. It wouldn't stop robberies, it would just make the criminals more ruthless. People who rob and people who kill are extremly different. If a robber knew that the persons house he is entering could be armed would you think he'd want to go inside it to make a few bucks? Having an armed population doesn't all of a sudden change the way society functions. If all laws where removed and/or those who enforced them where removed then it would become a survival of the fittest.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 18:23
Yes, I'm 13 My apologies for my post at the beginning of this topic. Somehow, I thought that you were 15 and I should stick that Fucking Knife up your ass if you pulled it on me. I would never do that to you Canadian! You or any other LITTLE 13 YEAR OLD SNOT NOSED BASTARD! No Canadian, I would have to do what your parents were lax in doing! That would be rip your fuckin pants off and take a switch to your BARE ASS! Who the Fuck are you trying to impress by making post like these? Maybe you have some little 12 0r 13 year old friends that are reading what you posted, but you have done nothing but ire me, Boy! Go out and play with your soccer ball and do what T-Rex said...come back in about 4 years(after you have grown up and matured a bit) GOD DAMN! How many times do I have to say this? I'm NOT from Canada! So, we forget where you are from.....you are posting negative American comments and your name is the Canadian! What do you expect? Why isn't your name The Indiana Boy? Man, you pissed me the Fuck Off, Kid!......I'm off the Net for now!
tim2xSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 18:30
This is one to sink your teeth into!! The Canadian, just the attitude that comes across here shows you carry way too much fear, which those that are predators can almost feel. That in turn will make you a victim. You mentioned hearing gunfire, so you carry a knife. Think about it for a moment. The only time your knife helps against a gun is if the other is really close, or doesn't know your there, and you attack him unprovoked. You pull a knife on someone with a gun, and your getting a bullet in the head. Make sure your trained with that knife too. You go up against someone experienced, and/or trained, and all you are doing with that knife is giving THEM a weapon. Because they will take it away from you. As for racism, your post is just oozing with it. Unless you are an aboriginal from South America, everyone in North America at some point in time in their family history is an immigrant. There are just as many non black young men wearing the current fashion of showing off their underwear as there are black. Crime everywhere happens, and race has nothing to do with it. If there were 250 million or so people in Canada, we would have the same levels of crime as the U.S. The only real difference here is the gun control, so there are fewer gun crimes. But they are still happening, and going up every year here, especially in Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Montreal, and Halifax. Just a few months ago, near London Ont. where I live, was what the media has called the worst mass murder in Canada. I think there were over 8 people killed. All were shot. There is town in the states, I think in Utah or Wyoming, somewhere over that area, where everyone carries a gun. It has a very low crime rate. There's a reason for that. I personally don't own a gun, because I know that with my attitude, my behaviourism's, etc, it would be way to easy for me to shoot someone with it. That doesn't mean that in the gun controlled country of Canada, I can't get one illegally in less than an hour, if I really wanted to get one and spend the cash. I can get one legally in about a month or two if I want to go through the licensing, registration, and testing it takes. T.REX- What a load of crap. There is still gun violence in England. Not as much as the U.S., but it happens. And you don't need a gun to kill someone. If you investigated about the U.S. gun laws at all, and why the right to own one is in their constitution, it would be in regards to their tossing out the English government after the dictatorship attempts a few hundred years ago. They have that constitutional right, so that they will never be defenseless against a government that attempts those behaviours again. So that they may protect their families and property when need be. Their are millions of law abiding gun owners in both Canada and the U.S. that have shot nothing more than targets, and never will. But I'd be more happy to have a gun at home to end a threat to my wife and kids, than not need one and be a victim to an intruder, and have to wait the 2 or 3 hours for a cop to arrive, if we get the chance to call em. Though in my own home with my training, unless they do have a gun, I'm not too worried about it. Also, many criminals that do those things do them because they are not afraid of any repurcusions, partly because they know the people they attack or harm are not armed, and makes it harder for anyone to try to retaliate or stop them. You do not often, in any country, hear about people attacking someone that is armed and prepared for that attack, or have the ability to respond in kind. Unless it is a literal war zone. OZZIE- not to often in Canada has anything like a murder been covered up. No more than in the U.S. at any point in time. Our two countries are almost identical in our cultures and our citizens rights. There are very small differences, though people on both sides of our border like to pretend there are more, and they are substantial. There are some laws in your country that I would like to see here, but there are other things that are a bit out there. When I rode my bike to California, I got a federal carry license, for a bit over 300 bucks, that made me legal to carry a handgun in all states. I'm not even a citizen. And there are states that ARE like the old west. Most of them the southern states. I know for a fact, that in Georgia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, you can get a gun with just a drivers license, and we all know certain places that will by-pass the Bradey law for an extra bit of cash, thus avoiding the 5 day wait and criminal check. Take away the right to bear arms? Certainly not! But have someone that want's to legally bear those arms take a couple of pshych tests, get their criminal record checked, and pass a safety course or two before they get their gun, and maybe say be a legal adult of 21 or more so that their angst ridden, puberty driven hormones make it a bit more level headed, why not? Not to say a parent/guardian can't take a child hunting, or teach them the correct use of a firearm, but until they reach a certain age, not able to get one and carry one. If everyone had a gun, well, as the saying goes, an armed society is a polite society.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 18:30
Canadian, come back in 4 years mate. Your 13 arnt you? What, when he is your age, T-Rex? Give me a break, Jack...do you really think that you are that much more mature than the Canadian? At 17? pfffffft.....you don't even want me to start on what my life had fucking been like by the time I was 17! I would dare to say that you are above average intelligence, T-Rex (judging by SOME of your posts)...It is a shame that you do not use it for something worthwhile! But as far as maturity, you often post like a 13 year old!
ColziSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 18:52
Ozzies got a thorn in his paw!
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 19:29
SORRY if this is a long post! I got carried away, but it has some good info in it! Take the time to read.... Well, I was off for a moment or two....long enough to take a piss, let the dogs out and open another beer!....... Nice post tim2x.....good rebuttal. Just got to straighten you out on a few things. OZZIE- (1)not to often in Canada has anything like a murder been covered up. No more than in the U.S. at any point in time. Our two countries are almost identical in our cultures and our citizens rights. There are very small differences, though people on both sides of our border like to pretend there are more, and they are substantial. There are some laws in your country that I would like to see here, but there are other things that are a bit out there. When I rode my bike to California, (2)I got a federal carry license, for a bit over 300 bucks, that made me legal to carry a handgun in all states. I'm not even a citizen. And there are states that (3) ARE like the old west. Most of them the southern states. I know for a fact, (4) that in Georgia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, you can get a gun with just a drivers license, and we all know certain places that will by-pass the Bradey law for an extra bit of cash, thus avoiding the 5 day wait and criminal check. Take away the right to bear arms? Certainly not! But have someone that want's to legally bear those arms take a couple of pshych tests, get their criminal record checked, and pass a safety course or two before they get their gun, and maybe say be a legal adult of 21 or more so that their angst ridden, puberty driven hormones make it a bit more level headed, why not? (5) Not to say a parent/guardian can't take a child hunting, or teach them the correct use of a firearm, but until they reach a certain age, not able to get one and carry one. (1) I mentioned Canada AND England in my original post. Canada is VERY MUCH like the USA, the other countries I mentioned rely on a lot of tourism dollars. So, reporting of crimes in the world news is kept to a minimum. Whereas in the US, many crimes have National and Worldwide news coverage. In the states, that fellow who shot up the students in Canada made the news down here, but I am sure that a lot more goes on up there that does not get reported on the International news, yes or no? (2) Your "Federal Carry Permit" from the USA.....hmmmmm, I do not want to tell you that you are mistaken or lying, BUT if you really did put out the $300.00 and got a piece of paper (carry permit) how good do you really think it is/was? I think that you were lucky that you did not get caught carrying a weapon down here. I do not want to start a Flame war here, but I also do not want others who might read this to be misinformed. WHY did you get it or WHY were you here? You stated that you were here on your bike. Were you Hunting on a Non-resident Hunting License and a guide got this for you? How old are you and what year did this happen? HERE is what I know is FACT and anyone can verify this by calling their local FBI office, Police or Sheriff Department. MID 70's I was a cop for almost 2 years in Northern New Jersey....I quit. Back then, there was no "Federal Permit". Since I quit, I had to give up my carry permit and get a new one in Pennsylvania which I did. In this state you apply through the county sheriff's office and get the local police chief to approve. This permit is good ONLY in the state of PA! NOW, I am now a Licensed Repossessor and Bail Enforcement Agent (Bounty Hunter) if I got to New Jersey, Delaware or any other state....my permit is NO GOOD! If I am pursuing a Bail Skip in New Jersey.....I must notify the local Police and get a Bail Bondsman with a carry permit to be with me. I can not carry in that state in the course of my job, without permission from the Law Enforcement where I am going. The ONLY exceptions to this are few......Bank and Jewel Couriers, Armoured Car Guards and I believe Gun Collectors when going out of state to shows may use their state permits. There is no Federal Carry Permit issued to any common citizen as far as I know! (3) These would be the Western States...Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Wyoming (where I am from and my family still lives), Montana (4) Not any more....ALL states require a minimum 7 day waiting period as Required by Federal Law (The Brady Bill) the only exception to this is gun shows for long guns and shotguns and handguns if you have a carry permit issued in the state of purchase. Many legit shops are making peeps with carry permits wait the required amount of time. REASON? Gang Banger gets mom, sister, wife or brother without a record to get a permit and then supply handguns as needed. If you have a permit and your shit gets stolen, it sends a red flag to the feds. (5) In Pa....not sure of the hunting laws in other states, a minor hunter must be accompanied by a parent or guardian at ALL times while Hunting. This is up to age 16.....They also must take and pass an approved hunting and Gun Safety courses and tests before being allowed to get a Licence. Even an adult, who has never hunted before, must take the same courses to get a licence!
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 19:36
Ozzies got a thorn in his paw! NAAAA! I'm OK now! Merrill has often told the Mods that he stays out of the Fight Room so he doesn't get pissed off, I should have heeded the warning. Never did do much posting here, well it was never much of a fight or flame. Haven't posted in Anger for quite a while.....the Fuckin Canadian just really tweaked my tit with his comments. I don't think that it was his comments so much, I have heard them before! I just didn't expect it from him...Fuckin kid! Still wet behind the ears! CANADIAN......I am REALY disappointed in you...you let me down kid.
andrexoteSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 19:47
Ozzies got a thorn in his paw! NAAAA! I'm OK now! Merrill has often told the Mods that he stays out of the Fight Room so he doesn't get pissed off, I should have heeded the warning. Never did do much posting here, well it was never much of a fight or flame. Haven't posted in Anger for quite a while.....the Fuckin Canadian just really tweaked my tit with his comments. I don't think that it was his comments so much, I have heard them before! I just didn't expect it from him...Fuckin kid! Still wet behind the ears! CANADIAN......I am REALY disappointed in you...you let me down kid. lmao, i love ozzie´s metaphors
ColziSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 20:01
hysterics ure a legend Ozz! These boards just wouldn't be the same without ya! (n ive only been here a few days!)
DrazSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 20:08
nigga we push it together
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 20:26
SHIT!...The Smilies got into my STASH! http://www.world-of-smilies.com/html/images/smilies/sonst…
crazyjoeSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 20:29
wow havn't seen this kind of Ozzie since EC was tooin his horn :shock: Ozzie BTW Would you happen to know my age Oz? It may or may not shock you lol
ColziSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 20:33
wow havn't seen this kind of Ozzie since EC was tooin his horn :shock: Ozzie BTW Would you happen to know my age Oz? It may or may not shock you lol judging by that pic o yours id say ure 30 ish :roll:
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 20:41
wow havn't seen this kind of Ozzie since EC was tooin his horn :shock: Ozzie Feelin' no pain tonight, couple o' six pacs and some new pain killers for my knees put me in LaLa Land! Ready to call the dogs and head to bed, LOL BTW Would you happen to know my age Oz? It may or may not shock you lol hmmmmmmm, I really do not think that you posted it...or I missed it. You post well, care about grammar, etc. No, I couldn't guess. I thought Canadian was 15, I don't remember him saying he was 13...the only one that was 13 and a regular that I knew of was RitzAge.....hmmm, guess this topic blew that out of the water.
tim2xSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 20:41
OZZIE-Yes, of course there are crimes here that don't hit the international news, just like there are there. when I worked technical support, and did the cnn site to keep myself busy during downtime, read lots of stories that were considered regional, which were never reported on major stations, or in international news, some of them violent gun crimes. 2)I didn't get it, a friend of mine sent in all of the information. It was about 15 years ago, he got the address and was faxed all the information, I just filled out the papers he got, and we sent them in, then got our licenses, or permits. He got the address from a friend of ours that does repo work here in Canada, and in Michigan, Ohio, NY. He keeps his U.S. gun at a firearm range near Dearborn? Michigan, and runs a gun club here. I got the gun because it was not long after the McDonald shootings in Detroit, and we were going to L.A., and I figured that if someone was going to shoot at me, if they missed, I wanted to be able to shoot back. My uncle in Port Huron Michigan was upset from the previous year, when I went to New Orleans, and I didn't carry a gun. The ones we carried were his. I also knew that many of the places I was going to hang out at, and people I was going to associate with, did not belong to Miss Marples sewing circle. He may have gotten us one of those few exception ones you mentioned. I didn't look into it, so only have the info he gave me. I did know that it was good for one year, which we figured was a better deal than trying to figure out exactly which states we would be in, and get the 30 day permit for each state we were going through. Cheaper. 3)4) I said those states were like the wild west, not were the western ones. And I know about the Brady law, but if you were a cop, and are working bail jumps/ repo, you also know that I can walk into certain pawn shops in certain area's, and for an extra bit, get a gun and by pass the Brady wait. some will even by pass the correct I.D. 5)That's PA, and some of the states may have changed local laws since I was there, but when going through the states I mentioned, I was informed that just having a drivers license could get me a gun, legitimately. No courses, just the waiting period, which was once upon a time 5 days. I guess you guys upped it to 7? Or is that local? I was 24 when I went to N.O., and 25 when I went to LA, so it was actually 14 years ago.
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 21:28
You do know that blacks make up most of the crime, don't you Big Ozzie? If you're mad about what I posted, then please get over it... It won't help complaining about it, because thats just what I believe in and what i've seen. And I do not think I am stupid... I don't think anyone is stupid...
Rocker KidSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 22:06
I'm scared of guns. People are alwyas talking about owning them and I hate it. I agree no guns. Unless your a police officer, military ect. I think hunters should be able to hunt game but the guns have to be kept somwhere while they are not in a hunting zone. So why would you let people have guns to protect themselves from guns? It makes no sence. Of course people would have guns illeagly but there would be tons less shooting. No guns= No shooting
crazyjoeSalvaged from archive22 Sept 2006, 22:43
Feelin' no pain tonight, couple o' six pacs and some new pain killers for my knees put me in LaLa Land! Ready to call the dogs and head to bed, LOL hmmmmmmm, I really do not think that you posted it...or I missed it. You post well, care about grammar, etc. No, I couldn't guess. I thought Canadian was 15, I don't remember him saying he was 13...the only one that was 13 and a regular that I knew of was RitzAge.....hmmm, guess this topic blew that out of the water.[/quote] I'm 15 :)
tgd_02Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 01:25
You do know that blacks make up most of the crime, don't you Big Ozzie? If you're mad about what I posted, then please get over it... It won't help complaining about it, because thats just what I believe in and what i've seen. And I do not think I am stupid... I don't think anyone is stupid... i think ur fucking stupid, fuck ass little bitch, your parensts shoulda beat some sense into ur spoiled ass
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 02:12
You do know that blacks make up most of the crime, don't you Big Ozzie? If you're mad about what I posted, then please get over it... It won't help complaining about it, because thats just what I believe in and what i've seen. And I do not think I am stupid... I don't think anyone is stupid... i think ur fucking stupid, fuck ass little bitch, your parensts shoulda beat some sense into ur spoiled ass Thats it... I'm throwing in the towel! I'm sick of listening to your insults, when you don't have any facts... Prove to me that blacks don't make up most of the crime. Prove to me that illegal immigrents are not bringing drugs and crime into our country. And btw, I used the "bad food" as sarcasm... if you actually believed me, then you're "stupid"
shawmuttSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 02:42
So why would you let people have guns to protect themselves from guns? It makes no sence. What do you suggest we give people to protect them against the criminals who would still have guns? Some flowers? A hug? Or would you just tell them to let the criminal do whatever they want to them? Prove to me that blacks don't make up most of the crime. Prove to me that illegal immigrents are not bringing drugs and crime into our country. This doesn't make sense. You claim to hate racism yet you post an ignorant racist baseless claim like this? Asking for proof when you provide none of your own? I'm with ozzie, some of you people need to step away from the keyboard a bit and explore the really real world. We are all illegal immigrants in some form or another, we just decided at some point that we had enough and stopped letting people in. Criminals go after easy targets. Take away guns from honest people and you just created a shitload of easy targets. Just the fact that the person might be carrying a firearm deters a lot of crime. Im not a yank, and if yanks want to carry weapons around on their own soil like primative apes, I spose its their business. But I think the idea of letting civilians buy weapons designed to end life is distgusting, and any government that condones it is seriously fucked up. I would never want to live in a place like that. Guns should be restricted to military, police ect, and for professions that need them, farming ect. After we kicked your limey bastards' asses a couple hundred years ago, we decided that it would be a good idea to let the common man keep his firearm. We don't want you here anyway, so don't worry about living here.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 05:05
You do know that blacks make up most of the crime, don't you Big Ozzie? Where did you get your figures, pull them out of your ASS? Back up your statement with proof of research, because it is obvious to me that a 13 year old's Racist view points are LEARNED, not his own! Keep spewing the Bull Shit, Canadian....you are digging a deep hole that is going to be a real Bitch to get out of! Just where DO you get your info to base your statement on? Prison population? Arrest records? I really think that you should spend a FEW DAYS researching what you are claiming. As a former Criminology Major in College, I know for a fact that it is a lot more than the color of a persons skin that determines whether or not they will become criminals. If you're mad about what I posted, then please get over it... It won't help complaining about it, because thats just what I believe in and what i've seen. SHIT, don't fuckin credit yourself with my anger. I could give two shits about your ignorant racist views and stupid comments. I was more pissed at myself that I thought you were a decent kid...obviously you are being led astray by the ignorant adults that are around you! Racism is learned....not inherited. You are taught to be a racist by others and by personal experience. Like I stated earlier, you haven't been weened long enough to experience much, so obviously some ignorant fucking adult or older kid is guiding your thoughts and feeding you BULL SHIT! Your loss.... And I do not think I am stupid... I don't think anyone is stupid... Well now.....than why make STUPID COMMENTS?
Snuff.Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 05:25
I've already stated my feelings regarding gun control in another thread. T.Rex: perhaps you'd like parliament to wipe your arse for you when you're done having a shit? :wink: Personally, I feel that in a democratic society the issue of firearm legality should at least be up for referendum. TheCanadian: WTF sort of response were you expecting? :lol: Also, I find it amusing how your age has varied statement-to-statement in different post during your time upon these boards. Those of black skin are responsible for the majority of crime in the USA? No, those of low socio-ecenomic standing are, and due to the draconian oppression of black people until about half a century ago, many remain in poverty disproportionately to those of white skin. But times they are a-changing, and by the time you're old enough to present a rational argument you may reflect upon your thoughts as not only being "dumb" (and they really are stupid to the point that my eyeballs bleed from reading them :wink: ), but alien given the circumstances of your future environment.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 06:20
Thanks Snuff.....that was the polite way of paddling his bare ass! LOL :lol:
QuackersSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 06:57
Canadian, come back in 4 years mate. Your 13 arnt you? What, when he is your age, T-Rex? Give me a break, Jack...do you really think that you are that much more mature than the Canadian? At 17? pfffffft.....you don't even want me to start on what my life had fucking been like by the time I was 17! I would dare to say that you are above average intelligence, T-Rex (judging by SOME of your posts)...It is a shame that you do not use it for something worthwhile! But as far as maturity, you often post like a 13 year old! At 17 he will be aproaching voting age, like I am, I didnt exactly mean maturity. And Ace, those statistic took population differences into account. Someone else said something aswell, but I cant be bothered to trawl through loads of bullshit to pick it out. My neck hurts cos I slept in an add position.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 07:01
OZZIE-....(partly deleted to save yer eye balls).... 2)I didn't get it, a friend of mine sent in all of the information. It was about 15 years ago, he got the address and was faxed all the information, I just filled out the papers he got, and we sent them in, then got our licenses, or permits. He got the address from a friend of ours that does repo work here in Canada, and in Michigan, Ohio, NY. He keeps his U.S. gun at a firearm range near Dearborn? Michigan, and runs a gun club here. (deleted) He may have gotten us one of those few exception ones you mentioned. I didn't look into it, so only have the info he gave me. I did know that it was good for one year, which we figured was a better deal than trying to figure out exactly which states we would be in, and get the 30 day permit for each state we were going through. Cheaper. Your friend from Canada may be running in the states and has established an "illegal" second residence here. As a licensed Re-possessor in Pa (some states do not require a licence) I find it difficult to believe that your friend actually goes to Ohio, NY or even Michigan after some banks collateral. The Banks are all whores and they do not pay enough to make traveling the distance worth while. Not when most repossessors belong to organizations and network together to farm out "skips". Financially it is not feasible nor worth the time, fuel expense or wear and tear on a wrecker to go more than 100-200 miles after a debtor who has defaulted. There are so many Repo companies out there that I can almost guarantee that if you are driving at night and see a tow truck on the road....if it doesn't have "AAA" on it, it is the REPO-MAN! As far as the gun laws are concerned, I suggest that you contact the local office of our FBI in Canada....see whether what I have stated is true. I would hate to see you end up in the pokey 'cause you were misled by someone. 3)4) I said those states were like the wild west, not were the western ones. And I know about the Brady law, but if you were a cop, and are working bail jumps/ repo, you also know that I can walk into certain pawn shops in certain area's, and for an extra bit, get a gun and by pass the Brady wait. some will even by pass the correct I.D. I thought that we were discussing legal purchase and carry....I can buy an illegal gun in any city in the states with in a few hours of arriving. Many "Pawn Shops" sell firearms without filing the proper papers. I myself have purchased "throw downs" from pawn shops. That does not make the purchase legal. These same pawn shops will often pay for pawned merchandise without getting proof of ownership or ID's. That is when they become a "fence". You can also purchase privately at Flea Markets or Garage sales without going through the waiting period....this does not mean it is legal! 5)That's PA, and some of the states may have changed local laws since I was there, but when going through the states I mentioned, I was informed that just having a drivers license could get me a gun, legitimately. No courses, just the waiting period, which was once upon a time 5 days. I guess you guys upped it to 7? Or is that local? Firearm purchases are controlled by Federal Laws now. Carrying of a concealed weapon is controlled by individual states and local municipalities. If I live in Pa and go on a hunting trip in Wyoming and the Airlines loose my rifle...I CAN NOT buy a new rifle with an out of state drivers license, I would have to borrow a rifle from the guide or another hunter. Hunting regulations are still decided state by state. I was 24 when I went to N.O., and 25 when I went to LA, so it was actually 14 years ago.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 07:34
There are some useful and interesting information on gun control and gun rights in the following links: The following was quoted from this site: http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/FederalGunLaws.aspx?ID=59 CARRYING ON OR ABOUT THE PERSON It must be stressed that as soon as any firearm (handgun, rifle, or shotgun) is carried on or about the person, or placed where it is readily accessible in a vehicle, state and local firearms laws regarding carrying apply. If you seek to transport firearms in such a manner, it is advisable that you determine what the law is by contacting the Attorney General's office in each state through which you may travel or by reviewing a NRA/ILA State Firearms Law Digest or the Concealed Carry Reciprocity guide and also available by calling NRA/ILA at 800-392-8683. You should determine whether a permit is needed and how to obtain one if available. While many states require a permit for this type of carrying, most will not issue such permits to nonresidents, and others prohibit such carrying altogether. For individual state info go here: http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=18 only two states allow a RESIDENT to carry without a permit...Vermont and Alaska. Wisconsin and Illinois refuses all concealed weapons permits by non law enforcement residents. Yet Chicago, IL has a pretty high rate of crimes committed with handguns! The following is a link to states and whether they have Reciprocity and Recognition of other states carry permits:http://www.nraila.org/recmap/usrecmap.htm
loadrunnerSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 08:52
I have no gun at home, but i trained using one at the "Shooting-club" i have my locker overthere. In the NL it is forbidden to carry a gun, when you're no police officer, or licend by the gouvrement. If u have a gun, no matter the reason is, you can get a 4 year penelty. Í don't know what's better : -everyone can cary a gun, or -nobody may carry a gun The police overhere know : Only the bad guys use guns , "shoot before asking is their policy".( they ask once to drop the gun, and u have 3 seconds). if u point a knife to an police-officer he will use the pepperspray. In a crowd or in public most of time the "Tazer" is used...
Commando80Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 10:09
This is on my mind right now. My brothers girlfriend better not eat everything at the restuarant.
AllisterFiendSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 10:24
As gun crime leaps by 35% in a year, plans are afoot for a further crack down on firearms. Yet what we need is more guns, not fewer, says a US academic. "If guns are outlawed," an American bumper sticker warns, "only outlaws will have guns." With gun crime in Britain soaring in the face of the strictest gun control laws of any democracy, the UK seems about to prove that warning prophetic. For 80 years the safety of the British people has been staked on the premise that fewer private guns means less crime, indeed that any weapons in the hands of men and women, however law-abiding, pose a danger. Government assured Britons they needed no weapons, society would protect them. If that were so in 1920 when the first firearms restrictions were passed, or in 1953 when Britons were forbidden to carry any article for their protection, it no longer is. The failure of this general disarmament to stem, or even slow, armed and violent crime could not be more blatant. According to a recent UN study, England and Wales have the highest crime rate and worst record for "very serious" offences of the 18 industrial countries surveyed. But would allowing law-abiding people to "have arms for their defence", as the 1689 English Bill of Rights promised, increase violence? Would Britain be following America's bad example? Old stereotypes die hard and the vision of Britain as a peaceable kingdom, America as "the wild west culture on the other side of the Atlantic" is out of date. It is true that in contrast to Britain's tight gun restrictions, half of American households have firearms, and 33 states now permit law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons. But despite, or because, of this, violent crime in America has been plummeting for 10 consecutive years, even as British violence has been rising. By 1995 English rates of violent crime were already far higher than America's for every major violent crime except murder and rape. You are now six times more likely to be mugged in London than New York. Why? Because as common law appreciated, not only does an armed individual have the ability to protect himself or herself but criminals are less likely to attack them. They help keep the peace. A study found American burglars fear armed home-owners more than the police. As a result burglaries are much rarer and only 13% occur when people are at home, in contrast to 53% in England. uch is made of the higher American rate for murder. That is true and has been for some time. But as the Office of Health Economics in London found, not weapons availability, but "particular cultural factors" are to blame. A study comparing New York and London over 200 years found the New York homicide rate consistently five times the London rate, although for most of that period residents of both cities had unrestricted access to firearms. When guns were available in England they were seldom used in crime. A government study for 1890-1892 found an average of one handgun homicide a year in a population of 30 million. But murder rates for both countries are now changing. In 1981 the American rate was 8.7 times the English rate, in 1995 it was 5.7 times the English rate, and by last year it was 3.5 times. With American rates described as "in startling free-fall" and British rates as of October 2002 the highest for 100 years the two are on a path to converge. The price of British government insistence upon a monopoly of force comes at a high social cost. First, it is unrealistic. No police force, however large, can protect everyone. Further, hundreds of thousands of police hours are spent monitoring firearms restrictions, rather than patrolling the streets. And changes in the law of self-defence have left ordinary people at the mercy of thugs. According to Glanville Williams in his Textbook of Criminal Law, self-defence is "now stated in such mitigated terms as to cast doubt on whether it still forms part of the law". Nearly a century before that American bumper sticker was slapped on the first bumper, the great English jurist, AV Dicey cautioned: "Discourage self-help, and loyal subjects become the slaves of ruffians." He knew public safety is not enhanced by depriving people of their right to personal safety. Joyce Lee Malcolm, professor of history, is author of Guns and Violence: The English Experience, published in June 2002.
AllisterFiendSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 10:37
Okay, this is for all the folks that don't have a clue. In 1997 there were 32,436 people killed by guns in the US. This figure is .0125 of 1% of the population. Now, of these 32,436 people shot, 33% were accidental. Which means 10,703.8 people were accidentally killed by firearms in the US. This figure is approximately .0038 of 1% of the population. (out of 280m people). Now, in 1992 drunk driving in this country killed a little over 100,000 people. Lung cancer in 1992 directly linked to cigarettes killed 400,000 people in the US. All loss of life is regrettable, but for anyone to recommend that guns are the biggest threat to society is nothing short of being incorrect. It is quite obvious that lifestyle choices kill more folks than guns do, by far.
tgd_02Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 11:10
Thats it... I'm throwing in the towel! I'm sick of listening to your insults, when you don't have any facts... Prove to me that blacks don't make up most of the crime. Prove to me that illegal immigrents are not bringing drugs and crime into our country. And btw, I used the "bad food" as sarcasm... if you actually believed me, then you're "stupid" id argue with u but u's a spolied little fuckwad who sleeps with his mom at nght in fear of blacks and has yet to seen the world outside his 225 pop. town fuck u again fatfuck
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 11:21
Why d'you call me fat? Why do you think I am fat? I'm fucking not... I DO work out at the gym, I DO play soccer on a team,I DO exercise at home and eat healthy... damn... I just don't understand you...
KitRaeSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 11:27
He calls you fat cuz you think you hate fat people, thus creating a sense of self-hate within the deepest pits of your psyche :twisted: And you will eventually become emo make an even bigger fool out of yourself! :D See? It's not so hard to understand tgd's logic :lol:
tgd_02Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 11:28
Why d'you call me fat? Why do you think I am fat? I'm fucking not... I DO work out at the gym, I DO play soccer on a team,I DO exercise at home and eat healthy... damn... I just don't understand you... STFU U FAT WHINNY FUCK
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 13:30
Why d'you call me fat? Why do you think I am fat? I'm fucking not... I DO work out at the gym, I DO play soccer on a team,I DO exercise at home and eat healthy... damn... I just don't understand you... STFU U FAT WHINNY FUCK ROFLMAO!!! I don't give a fuck about you, so I want feel bad about what you say :) so you're just wasting your breath
tgd_02Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 13:31
from the 4 to 6 responces here and in another thread, yea u do, fat fuck
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 13:34
from the 4 to 6 responces here and in another thread, yea u do, fat fuck Well now i learned to not feel sad or mad about what you say, so w/e
tgd_02Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 13:38
like i said, your 4 to 6 posts too late to be saying that shit to me, ya fat emo your worse than my whinny bitch ass ex gf
TheCanadianSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 13:42
WHAT THE FUCK IS WHINNY?!? Omg... Learn to spell before you start throwing insults... Just do that for me...
tgd_02Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 14:26
whinny=thecanadian there good for ya, ya fat whinny faggot? and before i start throwing insults? not only damn fat, emo, depressed, but apparantly illeterate and a tool, your the turd of the week congrats!
shawmuttSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 16:29
Why do people make fun of other's use of English while murdering the language themselves? You guys are too tough for me, I'm outta here before I get whacked with a ginormous epeen.
sheing3003Salvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 16:47
WHAT THE FUCK IS WHINNY?!? Omg... Learn to spell before you start throwing insults... Just do that for me... damn ass fucker stfu i think it's time for your medication
That DudeSalvaged from archive23 Sept 2006, 21:47
Why do people make fun of other's use of English while murdering the language themselves? You guys are too tough for me, I'm outta here before I get whacked with a ginormous epeen. ...Or a gutted copy of Webster's.
crazyjoeSalvaged from archive24 Sept 2006, 00:54
Thats it... I'm throwing in the towel! I'm sick of listening to your insults, when you don't have any facts... Prove to me that blacks don't make up most of the crime. Prove to me that illegal immigrents are not bringing drugs and crime into our country. And btw, I used the "bad food" as sarcasm... if you actually believed me, then you're "stupid" Really? How can one tell when you ignorantly contradict yourself about racism, and post much misinformed information. We can't prove to you that blacks are not the ones comitting all of the crimes in America. You know why? BECAUSE RACE IS NOT A FACTOR WHEN A CRIME GETS REPORTED. No chart posted by the US GOVT or other Agencies(FBI) will tell you what race commits what crime. Case in point: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm and http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html BTW 'Canadian' you, yourself, have NOT provided proof that blacks do make up most of the crime. Again contradicting yourself.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive24 Sept 2006, 05:05
US Gov't Stats do take Race into consideration. BUT, it is only for a statistical study, not to prove that one race is more prone to criminal behavior over another. Here is a link to Prison statistics put out bt the US Department of Justice: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm There are so many sub pages, charts and areas to "click on' in this US Gov't site that I couldn't list them all...... SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS! Bottom line......Snufftelect is correct in his previous post. It has been found that social upbringing, environment and status has more of an influence on whether or not a person becomes a criminal than the race of the individual.
That DudeSalvaged from archive24 Sept 2006, 07:23
US Gov't Stats do take Race into consideration. BUT, it is only for a statistical study, not to prove that one race is more prone to criminal behavior over another. Here is a link to Prison statistics put out bt the US Department of Justice: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm There are so many sub pages, charts and areas to "click on' in this US Gov't site that I couldn't list them all...... SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS! Bottom line......Snufftelect is correct in his previous post. It has been found that social upbringing, environment and status has more of an influence on whether or not a person becomes a criminal than the race of the individual. Then again, one could argue that being of a certain race makes you more prone to such an upbringing and the crimes involved with it: IE A black being raised in an urban ghetto would be considered more likely to rob a storefront, whereas a white from a nice suburb would be considered less likely to do so.
Big OzzieSalvaged from archive24 Sept 2006, 07:38
US Gov't Stats do take Race into consideration. BUT, it is only for a statistical study, not to prove that one race is more prone to criminal behavior over another. Here is a link to Prison statistics put out bt the US Department of Justice: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm There are so many sub pages, charts and areas to "click on' in this US Gov't site that I couldn't list them all...... SUGGEST YOU RESEARCH IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS! Bottom line......Snufftelect is correct in his previous post. It has been found that social upbringing, environment and status has more of an influence on whether or not a person becomes a criminal than the race of the individual. Then again, one could argue that being of a certain race makes you more prone to such an upbringing and the crimes involved with it: IE A black being raised in an urban ghetto would be considered more likely to rob a storefront, whereas a white from a nice suburb would be considered less likely to do so. One could also argue that a white child raised in the ghetto is more prone to commit a crime? I do believe that most criminals learn their actions by their surroundings and tutelage. Being poor has nothing to do with it. Seeing criminal acts committed and idolizing those who commit them is a strong contributor. The best deterrent is proper upbringing and discipline by parents.

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